Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[bobbyowenquiff]

Seems that absolute bin of a 'newspaper' the MEN is pulling their John Thomas's wildly over all this.

That paper never fails to slag off anything happening in Manchester including Sheikh Mansours investments. That’s why it is dying.

 

[mcfcinprague]

I really like The Eagles but no way will I pay £250 to see them.
I like The Black Keys and Kings of Leon but not as much as they want to charge for me to see dots of people on stage.
Give me Yes Manchester or even The Soup Kitchen any time. I did see both Black Keys and Kings of Leon in these small venues.

I saw The Eagles at Anfield last June. They were brilliant and my ticket was £106-80

 

[growl]

I really like The Eagles but no way will I pay £250 to see them.
I like The Black Keys and Kings of Leon but not as much as they want to charge for me to see dots of people on stage.
Give me Yes Manchester or even The Soup Kitchen any time. I did see both Black Keys and Kings of Leon in these small venues.

I have 2 seats for Eagles on June 4th which I no longer need. I paid total of £244.40 for the pair in the pre-sale. Happy to let them go for face value.

 

[Prophet of Doom]

I saw the arena launched a competition for free tickets and you could select which events you wanted if you won. Fully expecting a charm offensive where they try to offer a many freebies as they can to fill the venue once opened. The pricing is still too high for a new venue. Unless £80/90 base tickets is the soft launch price and they plan to go higher.

Kings of Leon play in June. Tickets have been on sale for a while now. Not even standing has sold out. It's the extortionate pricing. Standing. £80, Seating £85-110?! No idea why an aisle seat is cheaper either? https://www.seetickets.com/event/kings-of-leon/co-op-live/2953066
The beauty of gigs is you see a band you love and you make it a social thing and ask mates if they fancy it and even a band they aren't mad about they'd tag along. That's stopping now, seen plenty of people go "that's just too expensive". I just don't know who is affording it at the moment.

Fontaines are playing the Aviva Factory Place in town in November. £45. The venue also did pay what you can tickets. The band sold out 3 days in an hour. That's 15k standing tickets across the dates. I think I read co-op has 7.5k standing capacity for that KOL gig.

I understand the market forces thing but this will get worse. UFC to come. Fans think they might reach £400 a ticket for that and you get walk home at 7am apparently due to the US TV demands.

These ridiculous prices are here to stay and will get worse. Entertainment Music Sports - all operating on a similar model.

If you want to see where it will be in the future you just have to look at the USA where they will pay in the thousands to watch tours by the elite artists ie Taylor Swift Beyoncé Springsteen. Surge pricing is the latest innovation where demand forces the prices up to eye watering levels.

You can’t compare prices at a Fontaines gig to the mainly nostalgia acts performing at the Co Cop. The affluent middle aged audience for the majority of acts performing there have more cash to spend on tickets. And the middle aged punters will prefer to sit than be standing. Rock n roll eh !

Read an interview with the boss of Livenation last year where he spoke a load of bollocks that they think every gig ticket is now lifestyle decision where affluent customers are happy to pay for an experience. The consequence is they sell tickets for The Eagles farewell tour ( their 3rd final tour ha ) for £250+.

 

[waspish]

Think the Eagles £250 for a ticket in some ways is about right because when will you see them live again they ain't no spring chickens. People will pay it!

 

[Delboy352]

Think the Eagles £250 for a ticket in some ways is about right because when will you see them live again they ain't no spring chickens. People will pay it!

Maybe that’s why it’s called their Farewell tour. Though to be fair, they did their Hell Freezes Over one a fair few years ago. The difference this time, I think is that Glen Frey has died...

 

[Corky]

These ridiculous prices are here to stay and will get worse. Entertainment Music Sports - all operating on a similar model.

If you want to see where it will be in the future you just have to look at the USA where they will pay in the thousands to watch tours by the elite artists ie Taylor Swift Beyoncé Springsteen. Surge pricing is the latest innovation where demand forces the prices up to eye watering levels.

You can’t compare prices at a Fontaines gig to the mainly nostalgia acts performing at the Co Cop. The affluent middle aged audience for the majority of acts performing there have more cash to spend on tickets. And the middle aged punters will prefer to sit than be standing. Rock n roll eh !

Read an interview with the boss of Livenation last year where he spoke a load of bollocks that they think every gig ticket is now lifestyle decision where affluent customers are happy to pay for an experience. The consequence is they sell tickets for The Eagles farewell tour ( their 3rd final tour ha ) for £250+.

Keane starting at £85 - what next Star Sailor or Toploader?

Even Modern Talking are looking at a comeback after seeing what people will pay.

 

[blueparrot]

Keane starting at £85 - what next Star Sailor or Toploader?

Even Modern Talking are looking at a comeback after seeing what people will pay.

Part of this is these bands can’t make money from selling albums.physical product has grown a bit but 80% ,is still streaming for which bands get peanuts,plus. Nostagia tours are pretty much the only income stream, but they aren’t cheap to put on.
If you look at a lot of younger bands or bands from the last 20 years you’ll find many muscicians are in 3 or more bands as being constantly playing live is the only way to make a decent income for these musicians.
Of course this is very different from bands like The Eagles charging £200, and I’m sad to say AC/DC, charging similar,bands that don’t need to.

 

[Prophet of Doom]

Part of this is these bands can’t make money from selling albums.physical product has grown a bit but 80% ,is still streaming for which bands get peanuts,plus. Nostagia tours are pretty much the only income stream, but they aren’t cheap to put on.
If you look at a lot of younger bands or bands from the last 20 years you’ll find many muscicians are in 3 or more bands as being constantly playing live is the only way to make a decent income for these musicians.
Of course this is very different from bands like The Eagles charging £200, and I’m sad to say AC/DC, charging similar,bands that don’t need to.

It was secondary sale sites that gave an insight to promoters what punters would pay. Promoters saw that gig goers had no issue paying £100+ for tickets on Viagogo - so the face value cost rose to those kind of levels.

The second problem you have is mega corporations like Live Nation. They are promoters / own Ticketmaster and own hundreds of venues. Not healthy that they are running everything - as the consequence is punters paying more. The profits Live Nation make are obscene ( the CEO was paid $139million salary last year )

 

[blueparrot]

It was secondary sale sites that gave an insight to promoters what punters would pay. Promoters saw that gig goers had no issue paying £100+ for tickets on Viagogo - so the face value cost rose to those kind of levels.

The second problem you have is mega corporations like Live Nation. They are promoters / own Ticketmaster and own hundreds of venues. Not healthy that they are running everything - as the consequence is punters paying more. The profits Live Nation make are obscene ( the CEO was paid $139million salary last year )

In the bigger arenas maybe some of that with the bands like The Eagles.However if you look at smaller 2 /3000 seater venues bands are charging £40/60, some sell out some don’t, but they can’t afford to charge less and make a decent wage and pay all from touring, so that’s setting a base price.
You will find new bands charging less but they are trying to kick a career off,plus they probably aren’t paying mortgages and bringing families up.