Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[Deleted member 77198]

The Etihad is 1.5 miles from Manchester Piccadilly, OT is twice as far. It might be a similar distance from Manchester, but in terms of the transport centres once you reach Manchester City centre, Utd fans still face a long trek so largely they don't bother.

I live off Deansgate, traffic on match day at Man Utd is far worse than when City play though that maybe because Deansgate is an extension of Chester Rd.

I don't think you can compare transport as City to town is walkable and huge numbers of City fans walk it, but at Utd it's not walkable.

I always walk it back to Town after going to a Super League Grand Final at the Swamp.

It’s 1.9 miles from Old Trafford to Atlas Bar (about a 40 minute walk) and 1.6 miles from the Etihad to Tib Street Tavern (just over a 30 minute walk). They are mainly the two places I go to after going to either ground.

But there are a lot of people who can’t make even that 30 minute walk back to Town from the Etihad and when we expand it’s going to take even longer to wait for a Met and the small amount of buses that are on Ashton New Road won’t suffice.

After the Spurs CL game the other week me and me Father didn’t get home (back to Alty) until about 00:30. The Met line from Ashton had a car crash on the tracks somewhere and delayed Mets coming to the Etihad. A monorail or underground wouldn’t have that problem, nor would a purpose build split line at Etihad Campus that has Mets backed up after the game.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

We need a monorail back to the City Centre - would be cool.

Indeed.

I’ve always thought the city centre should be seen like it is in Berlin where it’s a long thin line. Media City to Etihad Campus is really an almost congruent city centre with the actual Manchester City centre in the middle linking both areas West-to-East.

I’ve felt for years that there should be a separate transport system that operates across the city centre from Media City to Etihad Campus. Not on the roads. My preference would be an underground but a monorail would be, as you say, cool.

 

[worsleyweb]

Indeed.

I’ve always thought the city centre should be seen like it is in Berlin where it’s a long thin line. Media City to Etihad Campus is really an almost congruent city centre with the actual Manchester City centre in the middle linking both areas West-to-East.

I’ve felt for years that there should be a separate transport system that operates across the city centre from Media City to Etihad Campus. Not on the roads. My preference would be an underground but a monorail would be, as you say, cool.

Wouldn’t cost that much to do a straight like monorail from media city to the ethiad.

Would be great as well.

 

[Roachy]

Wouldn’t cost that much to do a straight like monorail from media city to the ethiad.

Would be great as well.

Good idea, but has as already been proven, anything to do with building transport infrastructure in this country is astronomically expensive.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Wouldn’t cost that much to do a straight like monorail from media city to the ethiad.

Would be great as well.

Good idea, but has as already been proven, anything to do with building transport infrastructure in this country is astronomically expensive.

I don’t know the ins and outs of companies that don’t have to be government funded doing things like this, even if they do or can. But there are businesses out there who want to invest their money in this city, a monorail would be something iconic for Manchester and I’d imagine many people would want to get involved with something like that.

Anyway, I’m getting well ahead of myself and going off topic a bit... but food for thought.

 

[Roachy]

I don’t know the ins and outs of companies that don’t have to be government funded doing things like this, even if they do or can. But there are businesses out there who want to invest their money in this city, a monorail would be something iconic for Manchester and I’d imagine many people would want to get involved with something like that.

Anyway, I’m getting well ahead of myself and going off topic a bit... but food for thought.

I know what you mean. I experienced that horror journey after the CL game as well. Really pissed me off when the electronic signs kept saying that the next tram would be 2 mins and I was still stood there 20 mins later. Anyway, as was mentioned, expansion means more fans. I have mentioned it before on this thread and the metrolnk thread. Get a ruck of double units ready post match to get fans away pronto. I know the system has limitations but surely that could be done. I've been at Cornbrook and three E Dids trams have passed before the cattle car Alty service turns up.

 

[Marvin]

10 trams an hour back into town carrying what 200 people a time, that's 2,000 people in an hour, and probably a lot less given that 20 minutes after the game is over, the place is emptying rapidly. This is a niche issue.

If you looked at the Etihad 30 minutes after the game ended. What would you find? 50,000 people well gone. There are probably some problems for drivers and tram users, but in terms of an obstacle to ground expansion, I don't think so.

 

[JGL07]

In 20 years people under the age of thirty won’t be going to live sports events, they will be in arenas or more likely in their bedrooms watching gamers playing stuff on the latest version of Playstation/Nintendo Switch/ Xbox or whatever. Sad but true.

People said similar things fifty odd years ago. Crowds have gone up somewhat since then.

The dangers is that without stadium expansion, attending City matches could become a closed shop and a generation could be frozen out..

 

[Roachy]

10 trams an hour back into town carrying what 200 people a time, that's 2,000 people in an hour, and probably a lot less given that 20 minutes after the game is over, the place is emptying rapidly. This is a niche issue.

If you looked at the Etihad 30 minutes after the game ended. What would you find? 50,000 people well gone. There are probably some problems for drivers and tram users, but in terms of an obstacle to ground expansion, I don't think so.

An obstacle, no. An issue, definitely yes. Any expansion will only exacerbate the existing problem. Any one who uses the tram post match will generally say it's a nightmare.

 

[Marvin]

An obstacle, no. An issue, definitely yes. Any expansion will only exacerbate the existing problem. Any one who uses the tram post match will generally say it's a nightmare.

There are problems for the individual and there are problems that are relevant for stadium expansion. The Metrolink is not a major factor because its capacity is small.