Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[Sir Joe Aguero]

The Coach Wreckers were already hoasting concerts at Anfield. They've basically used our blueprint on and off the pitch to increase their revenues. Including hacking our player database.

City will get revenue from having the Arena on the Etihad Campus.

Be interesting to see if City keep on hosting large concerts once the arena is built, or if City step aside, take the rent money off OVG, and let them hold multi-date concerts in the new arena.

Interesting. I remember Metallica, Take That, Spice Girls (weird mix) all sold out the Etihad so hopefully it makes financial sense. I'm sure it does.

Wonder if this would count as 'Commercial' revenue (the rent) and can therefore be reinvested into the club for FFP reasons.

 

[HelloCity]

The Coach Wreckers were already hoasting concerts at Anfield. They've basically used our blueprint on and off the pitch to increase their revenues. Including hacking our player database.

City will get revenue from having the Arena on the Etihad Campus.

Be interesting to see if City keep on hosting large concerts once the arena is built, or if City step aside, take the rent money off OVG, and let them hold multi-date concerts in the new arena.

Stadium events will continue as ever. At the end of the day it’s more money for less work to perform in the stadium. The money they’d make for a single stadium show would take 2-3 arena shows.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

The Coach Wreckers were already hoasting concerts at Anfield. They've basically used our blueprint on and off the pitch to increase their revenues. Including hacking our player database.

City will get revenue from having the Arena on the Etihad Campus.

Be interesting to see if City keep on hosting large concerts once the arena is built, or if City step aside, take the rent money off OVG, and let them hold multi-date concerts in the new arena.

There must be huge marketing opportunities to sell joint football/music packages to corporate customers, tourists etc. There will also be the chance to open up the catering outlets inside the arena on football match days like the boxparks they have at Wembley stadium. It will increase the viability of any hotel built on the site and create lots of jobs for the local community.

 

[NeilYoungIsBack]

Is the Rugby League HQ still moving to the area?

 

[spiny]

City have a fan base in Manchester alone to sustain large crowds but the club have concentrated on profits, corporates and worldwide reach, and have missed out on getting a grip of our local fans.

Also, City have lost long standing match going fans. I know bloody loads who’ve stopped going. Lads who felt their tickets got too expensive; the way the club concentrated on a kids’ theme park matchday experience left a few lads feeling disconnected and not part-of-it anymore; lads who had to move from parts of the stadium to make way for new areas like the Family Stand or corporates (one lad sat on Level 2 and had to make way for corporate areas and was told he couldn’t sit next to his mate as they could find two seats together so he stopped going full stop).

I think City have [wrongly] tried to become a worldwide supported club and they’ve not done things well with people who were already City fans or already matchgoing fans.

Good points.

An alternative view is City had lost generations of local youngsters because of our failures and the success of United. The risk was of losing older fans at a greater rate than attracting new fans. Support has stabilised and it bodes well to see kids wearing City strips all around Manchester.

Concentrating on worldwide reach brought extra fans, a higher profile, investment, sponsorship, increased revenues, corporates and also made us attractive to players as well as the likes of Pep. Without this we could never compete with the "elite" but can now push on.

What I would like to see is the capacity of the Etihad expanded with the issues of a City end, seating, pricing and facilities all addressed. It would make sense to do this in conjunction with arrangements at the new Arena. Some activities like ticketing and hospitality could be shared.

ADUG always said they wanted to develop the site to be a destination open 7 days rather than just matchdays. I can see them looking to attract tourist fans who spend a lot more money on the day. The trick will be to ensure die hard City fans are also catered for. Increased capacity, better facilities and improved transport could mean a win win.

 

[pardoeofftomexico]

"An alternative view is City had lost generations of local youngsters because of our failures and the success of United. The risk was of losing older fans at a greater rate than attracting new fans. Support has stabilised and it bodes well to see kids wearing City strips all around Manchester".

Absolutely. At one time 80% of people I came into contact with in Manchester were United supporters (and 100% of those in other areas of the country who didn't support a local club!). The recovery has taken money backed by the infinite increase of interest outside Manchester.

 

[WRicko]

Stadium events will continue as ever. At the end of the day it’s more money for less work to perform in the stadium. The money they’d make for a single stadium show would take 2-3 arena shows.

Will we tho we seem to not have done stadium events recently and would imagine there is cross over in terms of time dates and types of bands that would sell out both and what about the logistics / traffic / neighborhood issues of a concert at both venues and then a football match a few days later perhaps whilst a concert is on at the other

 

[asahartford1]

City have a fan base in Manchester alone to sustain large crowds but the club have concentrated on profits, corporates and worldwide reach, and have missed out on getting a grip of our local fans.

Also, City have lost long standing match going fans. I know bloody loads who’ve stopped going. Lads who felt their tickets got too expensive; the way the club concentrated on a kids’ theme park matchday experience left a few lads feeling disconnected and not part-of-it anymore; lads who had to move from parts of the stadium to make way for new areas like the Family Stand or corporates (one lad sat on Level 2 and had to make way for corporate areas and was told he couldn’t sit next to his mate as they could find two seats together so he stopped going full stop).

I think City have [wrongly] tried to become a worldwide supported club and they’ve not done things well with people who were already City fans or already matchgoing fans.

I am surprised that in the club couldn't find two seats together for your two mates
We had to move from the C.Bell stand and were given choices.
I think your mates should remember the Platt lane stand which was full of kids, and particularly junior blues. I started in there in 1965. City have always encouraged young blues, and the pre match entertainment both inside and outside the ground should be directed at them. I just want a bar.
Adults often lose interest, just can't make the effort and usually find some excuse similar to your mates. I listen to these excuses all the time.
As of cost, there were cheap season tickets for your mates, available, as long as they didn't want the best seats and for those to be cheap
The argument about being a worldwide club, well unless the turnover continues to increase we cannot moan about the club not buying the best players, cannot have one without the other.
As I get older my Match day experience has changed, a bit less booze and a nice meal in Town, but the best bit is that the "Match" experience has become the highlight of the day, rather than the forgettable bit between booze sessions.

Good to see different opinions and how people experience things differently.

 

[Hoghead]

The arena will be 'all weather, all year, every day' whilst the stadium will be for 'good weather, out of season, occasional events'. Each having their own defined footprint complementing each other.
I don't think even in our previous heyday did we ever have consistently 50,000 fans at every league match, sell outs for 3rd and 4th round FA cup matches, 35,000 plus for league cup midweek matches in dismal Nov/Dec weather, 45,000 for EUFA midweek matches.
Club must be doing something right.

 

[HelloCity]

Will we tho we seem to not have done stadium events recently

Think it might be because there’s a pandemic :)