Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[Metalartin]

Seems a bit petty of ASM. They can just add 1k more seats to the current plans for the Co-op Live, have them hidden and wait until the AO Arena revamp is finished. That'll show um.

 

[Delboy352]

Will be interesting to see what the new FFP rules or whatever the replacement is called has on Stadium development.

Infrastructure costs used to be excluded so you could basically pump money in, not sure if that will be the case with new rules.

If the news from the Old Toilet is to be believed, they will be excluded until they’re done I reckon…

 

[blueparrot]

Seems a bit petty of ASM. They can just add 1k more seats to the current plans for the Co-op Live, have them hidden and wait until the AO Arena revamp is finished. That'll show um.

Sounds like The Empire Stae Building / Chrysler thing.


Upon learning that the Empire State would be 1,000 feet tall, Chrysler changed his plans a final time and fixed a stainless steel spire to the top of his skyscraper. The addition saw the Chrysler Building soar to a record 1,048 feet, but unfortunately for Chrysler, Raskob and Smith simply went back to the drawing board and returned with an even taller design for the Empire State Building. When completed in 1931, the colossus loomed 1,250 feet over the streets of Midtown Manhattan. It would remain the world’s tallest building for nearly 40 years until the completion of the first World Trade Center tower in 1970.

 

[jrb]

I’ve used the iPad to zoom in on the picture. Maybe some slight blurring? Click on the pictures to enlarge.

Not long before the 7 concrete cores (stairs and lift shafts) are completed.

Think the orange excavator is digging a hole in the middle of the site for the crane base?(could be wrong on that) 1 crane is proposed, along with the slow crane crawlers to lift the steel roof trusses into place.

Chris Billington - Linkedin.

Latest aerial photo of Manchester`s new Co op Live Arena project next to Sport City.

Aerial photo by professional aerial photographer 360photosurvey.com from our full size aircraft (not drone) from 1500 ft during our 25th April aerial photoshoot flight operation around the UK`s construction projects for our clients....you can`t do that with a drone.

 

[domalino]

ASM Global, the operator of the 27-year-old city-centre venue, is pushing ahead with redevelopment plans in response to the creation of a rival £300m arena in Eastlands.

When both indoor arenas are redeveloped and built, Manchester will have the 2 biggest capacity indoor arenas in Europe.

The £50m project will “dramatically enhance” the venue and boost its capacity from 21,000 to 24,000, ensuring it remains the largest arena in the city.


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Summer start for £50m revamp of Manchester's AO Arena - Place North West

ASM Global, the operator of the 27-year-old city-centre venue, is pushing ahead with redevelopment plans.

www.placenorthwest.co.uk

Seems a bit petty of ASM. They can just add 1k more seats to the current plans for the Co-op Live, have them hidden and wait until the AO Arena revamp is finished. That'll show um.

Sounds like The Empire Stae Building / Chrysler thing.


Upon learning that the Empire State would be 1,000 feet tall, Chrysler changed his plans a final time and fixed a stainless steel spire to the top of his skyscraper. The addition saw the Chrysler Building soar to a record 1,048 feet, but unfortunately for Chrysler, Raskob and Smith simply went back to the drawing board and returned with an even taller design for the Empire State Building. When completed in 1931, the colossus loomed 1,250 feet over the streets of Midtown Manhattan. It would remain the world’s tallest building for nearly 40 years until the completion of the first World Trade Center tower in 1970.

It is very like the Empire State/Chrysler thing because big acts will only play one venue, in the same way tourists go to the tallest building in the world, not the second tallest.

ASM obviously think that by having 3,000 more seats they will be more attractive than the COOP and they'll win the war.


The problem with that obviously is that Silver Lake have $100Bn behind them, and if they need to operate at a loss to get the big acts to come for a few years they will, and by then MEN will be bankrupt unless something drastic changes.

It's all a bit undignified.

 

[jrb]

It is very like the Empire State/Chrysler thing because big acts will only play one venue, in the same way tourists go to the tallest building in the world, not the second tallest.

ASM obviously think that by having 3,000 more seats they will be more attractive than the COOP and they'll win the war.


The problem with that obviously is that Silver Lake have $100Bn behind them, and if they need to operate at a loss to get the big acts to come for a few years they will, and by then MEN will be bankrupt unless something drastic changes.

It's all a bit undignified.

It’s not 3000 more, it’s 500 more.

AO Arena, 24,000 after refurb.
Coop Live Arena, 23,500 after construction.

It’s more symbolic than anything else. ASM Global want the AO Arena to remain the biggest indoor arena in the UK. (and in Europe) An extra 500 seats won’t sway artists.

Capacity aside, the Coop Live Arena will be brand new, state of the art. Artists and acts will want to play there initially because it‘s a new indoor arena.

 

[blueparrot]

It’s not 3000 more, it’s 500 more.

AO Arena, 24,000 after refurb.
Coop Live Arena, 23,500 after construction.

It’s more symbolic than anything else. ASM Global want the AO Arena to remain the biggest indoor arena in the UK. (and in Europe) An extra 500 seats won’t sway artists.

Capacity aside, the Coop Live Arena will be brand new, state of the art. Artists and acts will want to play there initially because it‘s a new indoor arena.

I haven't been to the Manchester arena,so don't know the AO. However building design will play a big part, I know the Glasgow Hydro, is much more adaptable than the old Glasgow SECC so is easier for different types of events, and can close off sections easier for smaller capacity events.It also has far better acoustics which will sway bands too.
I'm assuming all this has been thought of and incorporated into the Coop arena and will be difficult for the old AO to compete with.

 

[bluemanchester]

Here it is, City-style. I'm on the fence..

Which one, it's hard to make out;-)

 

[Metalartin]

It’s not 3000 more, it’s 500 more.

AO Arena, 24,000 after refurb.
Coop Live Arena, 23,500 after construction.

It’s more symbolic than anything else. ASM Global want the AO Arena to remain the biggest indoor arena in the UK. (and in Europe) An extra 500 seats won’t sway artists.

Capacity aside, the Coop Live Arena will be brand new, state of the art. Artists and acts will want to play there initially because it‘s a new indoor arena.

Yep I spotted that, that's why it seemed petty and I said they could just add 1k more to the build and keep it hush. It was a little tongue in cheek because I'm not sure how much it matters when the difference is that small either tbh. It would be funny, if they did pull a fast one on them though.

 

[jrb]

Yep I spotted that, that's why it seemed petty and I said they could just add 1k more to the build and keep it hush. It was a little tongue in cheek because I'm not sure how much it matters when the difference is that small either tbh. It would be funny, if they did pull a fast one on them though.

It's nothing more than willy waving by ASM Global. My indoor arena (cock) is bigger than your indoor arena.(cock)

The AO Arena internal bowl is superb. The facilities and appearance are currently dated.

The Coop Arena will be state of the art.

Ultimately Manchester will be the winner with 2 state of the art indoor arenas. :-)