Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

didsburyblu said:
Covid/brexit caused huge delays in getting the steel & parts required couple that with the workers lost who left after brexit and it's easy to see how it fell behind.

Big question now is can they get it done for next Monday. They can be excused one setback but misjudging it again and having to push back again and everyone starts to lose faith in those making the decisions and the venue in general
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Those reasons are valid but they will have known how far off they are for many months so they either had to throw more at it or delay it further.

Like you say, they can move on from the current issues but if the main schedule gets delayed or even cancelled then it's a PR disaster.
 
didsburyblu said:
Covid/brexit caused huge delays in getting the steel & parts required couple that with the workers lost who left after brexit and it's easy to see how it fell behind.

Big question now is can they get it done for next Monday. They can be excused one setback but misjudging it again and having to push back again and everyone starts to lose faith in those making the decisions and the venue in general
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I think its Saturday for the Black Eyed Peas but restricted to 10K
 
The black keys is now a test event, some of the statement in the media are misleading. Basically they thought they would get approval without a life safety system in place by having a load of Fire Marshalls, they didn't for various reason. They are trying again with a revised strategy, if that isn't accepted they have another few weeks of problems.
 
didsburyblu said:
Covid/brexit caused huge delays in getting the steel & parts required couple that with the workers lost who left after brexit and it's easy to see how it fell behind.

Big question now is can they get it done for next Monday. They can be excused one setback but misjudging it again and having to push back again and everyone starts to lose faith in those making the decisions and the venue in general
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Peter Kay was only booked 2 months ago.

They did the June dates first then booked earlier dates as they got more confident. It was due to open in 2023, but most developments get delayed. When you start booking dates two months ahead there is little excuse, allowing no contingency and expecting nothing to wrong is reckless.
 
bluesmith said:
The black keys is now a test event, some of the statement in the media are misleading. Basically they thought they would get approval without a life safety system in place by having a load of Fire Marshalls, they didn't for various reason. They are trying again with a revised strategy, if that isn't accepted they have another few weeks of problems.
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It's quite interesting that you keep referring to "A life safety system" , a venue like this will have numerous life safety systems, fire alarm, sprinklers,emergency lighting etc etc etc. All of which will be backed up by secondary power supplies.
From what I have heard from guys on site and reading between the lines of various reports in the public domain, the installation of these are not complete, which itself is crackers, but then it needs to be taken into account the commissioning of these systems, which is not a two minute job.
Tottenhams ground was an example of how quickly a job can go to shit, they were offering mega bucks for lads and got lads from all over the country, problem is its alright having all the "labour" but if most of them are shite at what they do and have no materials or plant to actually do the job then your fucked, which is why Tottenham took so long to get finished, I'm hearing similar for the arena.
 
didsburyblu said:
Covid/brexit caused huge delays in getting the steel & parts required couple that with the workers lost who left after brexit and it's easy to see how it fell behind.

Big question now is can they get it done for next Monday. They can be excused one setback but misjudging it again and having to push back again and everyone starts to lose faith in those making the decisions and the venue in general
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FFS Brexit was in 2020 they didn't break ground until 2021
 
gaz76 said:
It's quite interesting that you keep referring to "A life safety system" , a venue like this will have numerous life safety systems, fire alarm, sprinklers,emergency lighting etc etc etc. All of which will be backed up by secondary power supplies.
From what I have heard from guys on site and reading between the lines of various reports in the public domain, the installation of these are not complete, which itself is crackers, but then it needs to be taken into account the commissioning of these systems, which is not a two minute job.
Tottenhams ground was an example of how quickly a job can go to shit, they were offering mega bucks for lads and got lads from all over the country, problem is its alright having all the "labour" but if most of them are shite at what they do and have no materials or plant to actually do the job then your fucked, which is why Tottenham took so long to get finished, I'm hearing similar for the arena.
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The fact they are employing Fire Marshalls gives away where the delays are, I think I first posted back in September about this.

From the outside its easy to think it's the fire alarm so the fire alarm subby is at fault, more often than not it's far more complicated than that as they will have dependencies that need meeting - which they haven't on Co-Op.

You are right about commissioning this can be 20%+ of the contract period for this type of subby.
 
The good news is that the delay to the full opening for the arena doesn't affect Manchester City in any way whatsoever. There will be an indirect short term hit to CFG but that's all.

It will be very annoying and frustrating for people that have bought tickets for gigs that might not happen or have reduced attendance if they do but there is no impact on our title bid.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
The good news is that the delay to the full opening for the arena doesn't affect Manchester City in any way whatsoever. There will be an indirect short term hit to CFG but that's all.

It will be very annoying and frustrating for people that have bought tickets for gigs that might not happen or have reduced attendance if they do but there is no impact on our title bid.
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Agreed, fuck em
 
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