Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

Bluearmy said:
You used to be able to get from south stand (L2) all around the ground to the east (the long way, not thru the away fans), but they stopped that years back from memory. When they extended the south stand i think. Unless theres a fire escape i dont think you can get from SS L2 to L1 easily
Click to expand...
Nice one mate! Yeah I think some hospitality is why it blocked the route all the way round! Nevermind! Will get a cup ticket in southstand lower to check it out
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
I don’t get why they have kept the athletics track at the London stadium. How many times will the Olympics come back to these shores and the world athletics championships? Hardly worth keeping a 60,000 seater facility ticking over just incase that happens.
Click to expand...
Sheffield built the Don Valley Stadium fir the World Student games. It never found a subsequent use despite hosting rugby league, football, etc. It has been demolished.

Edinburgh built Meadowbank for the 1970 Commonwealth Games. It was used for football and other sports. The only time is ever was properly used for for the 1986 Commonwealth Games. It was largely demolished recently and replaced by a much smaller facility.

Glasgow declined to build a stadium for the 2014 Commonwealth Games and instead adapted Hampden Park by putting in a false floor to fit a track around the playing area. It was removed after the games.

A massive athletics stadium was always going to fail and Seb Coe’s vision would certainly have flopped even in the scaled down form. Multi-purpose arenas often fail unless the design is very good and satisfy no one.

The current London Stadium certainly is a mess.
 
JGL07 said:
Sheffield built the Don Valley Stadium fir the World Student games. It never found a subsequent use despite hosting rugby league, football, etc. It has been demolished.

Edinburgh built Meadowbank for the 1970 Commonwealth Games. It was used for football and other sports. The only time is ever was properly used for for the 1986 Commonwealth Games. It was largely demolished recently and replaced by a much smaller facility.

Glasgow declined to build a stadium for the 2014 Commonwealth Games and instead adapted Hampden Park by putting in a false floor to fit a track around the playing area. It was removed after the games.

A massive athletics stadium was always going to fail and Seb Coe’s vision would certainly have flopped even in the scaled down form. Multi-purpose arenas often fail unless the design is very good and satisfy no one.

The current London Stadium certainly is a mess.
Click to expand...
Given the record on Edinburgh and Sheffield, and how well Manchester did it, there was really no excuse for how badly the London Stadium played out. I suppose that’s what happens when you add a load of egos to a bottomless pit of public money.
 
Brewster's millions said:
Given the record on Edinburgh and Sheffield, and how well Manchester did it, there was really no excuse for how badly the London Stadium played out. I suppose that’s what happens when you add a load of egos to a bottomless pit of public money.
Click to expand...

Just like Wembley Stadium, which the fans are still paying for by being forced to go there for the FA Cup semi- finals.
 
Brewster's millions said:
Given the record on Edinburgh and Sheffield, and how well Manchester did it, there was really no excuse for how badly the London Stadium played out. I suppose that’s what happens when you add a load of egos to a bottomless pit of public money.
Click to expand...

This is true. They had a template with the Manchester Commonwealth Stadium of how to make it work, but unfortunately arseholes like David Conn whinged dismally about private interests benefitting excessively from the public money spent on the stadium.

As a result, Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell and London Mayor Ken Livingstone took a decision that the stadium would be scaled back and retain the track. This was entirely a political consideration aimed at ensuring that a wealthy Premier League club wouldn't move in. They complacently assumed that they'd be able to rent the venue in winter to Leyton Orient or maybe one of the London rugby clubs only to discover that, just like the bigger football clubs, these outfits had no desire to play at a stadium with a track, either.

I confess to loathing Boris Johnson, but when he became London Mayor he quite correctly identified the proposed legacy of the main Olympic venue as a joke. He alighted on the wrong solution, however. Spending north of GBP 300 million to convert a venue so West Ham could take it on a 99-year lease at an annual rent of GBP 2 million was a really poor deal for London's council taxpayers. It should have been knocked down after the Games and rebuilt, as Spurs proposed.
 
HelloCity said:
View attachment 52278
Click to expand...
The view from the top tier is dire. Much like the old Wembley there's no rake so you're too far away to know what is going on. Sunday was my fourth visit, although in the lower tier this time but no better. I was in row D but still felt like miles to the pitch & you get a perspective of how far the bench is from the touchline, about 25 metres.
Speaking to a few hammers on the way up they loved their seats on the half way line lower but neither had ST at Upton park, another had his ST behind the goal upper & admitted was too far back.
 
The London Stadium has helped the Hammers to become a biggest Club with, now, the second bigger attendances in the Prem.

The ground is nothing special but the away end isn’t as bad as Barca.
 
Last edited:
train man said:
The void between upper and lower tiers at the 'away' end is ridiculous. Presumably for a stage for gigs etc? It's bad enough how far the fans are from the pitch on the halfway line, but look how separated the City fans (or any away fans) are...View attachment 52259
Click to expand...
Are the y changing this?? Heard new seats are planned somewhere... Needs something doing!!
 
petrusha said:
This is true. They had a template with the Manchester Commonwealth Stadium of how to make it work, but unfortunately arseholes like David Conn whinged dismally about private interests benefitting excessively from the public money spent on the stadium.

As a result, Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell and London Mayor Ken Livingstone took a decision that the stadium would be scaled back and retain the track. This was entirely a political consideration aimed at ensuring that a wealthy Premier League club wouldn't move in. They complacently assumed that they'd be able to rent the venue in winter to Leyton Orient or maybe one of the London rugby clubs only to discover that, just like the bigger football clubs, these outfits had no desire to play at a stadium with a track, either.

I confess to loathing Boris Johnson, but when he became London Mayor he quite correctly identified the proposed legacy of the main Olympic venue as a joke. He alighted on the wrong solution, however. Spending north of GBP 300 million to convert a venue so West Ham could take it on a 99-year lease at an annual rent of GBP 2 million was a really poor deal for London's council taxpayers. It should have been knocked down after the Games and rebuilt, as Spurs proposed.
Click to expand...
The Etihad design for the commonwealth games was actually a scaled down version of a stadium that was designed for a failed bid by Manchester for the Olympic games with a 85k attendance ! I worked for Manchester City Council at the time and went to model unvailing at the Town Hall, think.is was about 1996 or there abouts ! Identical to he current stadium with bigger second and third tiers !
 
jrb said:
City can’t.

The PL want a % of away fans pitch side to improve the atmosphere. United and Newcastle have special dispensation, and don’t have away fans pitchside.
Click to expand...
It’s about time they where both instructed to sort that out, they’ve had long enough to do it since the original decision, in the same way clubs being promoted to the championship have a limited time to make their stadiums all seater. Clubs/supporters should lobby the PL
 
petrusha said:
This is true. They had a template with the Manchester Commonwealth Stadium of how to make it work, but unfortunately arseholes like David Conn whinged dismally about private interests benefitting excessively from the public money spent on the stadium.

As a result, Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell and London Mayor Ken Livingstone took a decision that the stadium would be scaled back and retain the track. This was entirely a political consideration aimed at ensuring that a wealthy Premier League club wouldn't move in. They complacently assumed that they'd be able to rent the venue in winter to Leyton Orient or maybe one of the London rugby clubs only to discover that, just like the bigger football clubs, these outfits had no desire to play at a stadium with a track, either.

I confess to loathing Boris Johnson, but when he became London Mayor he quite correctly identified the proposed legacy of the main Olympic venue as a joke. He alighted on the wrong solution, however. Spending north of GBP 300 million to convert a venue so West Ham could take it on a 99-year lease at an annual rent of GBP 2 million was a really poor deal for London's council taxpayers. It should have been knocked down after the Games and rebuilt, as Spurs proposed.
Click to expand...
Thanks for filling in the detail - I recall reading at the time that West Ham’s rental agreement essentially absolves them from any maintenance expenditure for the stadium as well, so that annual rent fee is even worse than it appears.
 
jrb said:
City can’t.

The PL want a % of away fans pitch side to improve the atmosphere. United and Newcastle have special dispensation, and don’t have away fans pitchside.
Click to expand...
Which is an absolute joke Newcastle away section is the worst in the PL I live in Newcastle and will not set foot in that stadium it’s an absolute piss take
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Unread Posts

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top