Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

2nd picture. Note the Construction worker walking through the bowl and how large the arena is in comparison.

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What an exciting morning it was today. Katie Denton and I got the chance to see how the stunning new Co-op Live music venue in #manchester is progressing as it nears the completion of its construction.

We are very excited to be one of the founding suite holders at the Arena. We got the chance to see ours for the first time, and take a look at the view our guests will have.

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bobbyowenquiff said:
The investment from Sheikh Mansour has done more to revive Manchester city-centre than anything else I can remember. I realise there is still a chronic shortage of affordable housing (as there is everyhere else) but the transformation of Ancoats and its surrounds has created thousands of jobs and helped to build hundreds of businesses. It was a wasteland in the 1970s/80s.
This is the story which the London-based media has chosen to ignore. And I can't understand why United's owners have not copied City's business model. The Glazers would have made bigger profits investing in Trafford/Salford than they have made from crumbling retail malls in run-down parts of the USA. Much as I hate MUFC such a strategy would be great for Greater Manchester as a whole.
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The glazers haven't because they'd had to loan more money
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
Certainly looks like a bank, though I don’t know the area.
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Yeah, your right.. it was a bank (NatWest?) many years ago and has probably just sat derelict for 5+ years. It’s right on Ashton New Road, so will make even more rivals piss boil when seeing it once completed..
 
jrb said:
Admittedly not on the Etihad Campus site or near it, so it’s not really relevant to the thread, but as it’s en-route to the Etihad stadium, and everybody knows where it is, and knows about it’s current demise, when they see it and pass it, this is very exciting news.

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Looking at the long term picture it all leads to the further redevelopment of Ancoats, New Islington, and in the future to Holt Town right up to the Etihad.

Place North West.

A planning application for the creation of an 800,000 sq ft civil service hub for 7,000 staff on part of the Great Ancoats Street site is expected this summer.
The initial development proposals by the Government Property Agency would look to create a new digital campus at the site, which the city council acquired for £37m from TH Real Estate in 2017.

The government campus will form the first phase of the redevelopment of the 10.5-acre site.

Overall, it is estimated that Central Retail Park could accommodate 1.25m sq ft of offices, while a “significant new green space” also forms par to the overarching strategy for the site.

“We have big ambitions for this site,” said Cllr Bev Craig, Leader of Manchester City Council.

“It has the potential to accommodate thousands of jobs, create a new green public space and gateway through to Cotton Field Park for the first time.

(an old cgi of the proposal)

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Manchester closes in on deal for Central Retail Park office campus - Place North West

A planning application for the creation of an 800,000 sq ft civil service hub for 7,000 staff on part of the Great Ancoats Street site is expected this summer.
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Is that where the stores were, toys r Us etc ?
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
The investment from Sheikh Mansour has done more to revive Manchester city-centre than anything else I can remember. I realise there is still a chronic shortage of affordable housing (as there is everyhere else) but the transformation of Ancoats and its surrounds has created thousands of jobs and helped to build hundreds of businesses. It was a wasteland in the 1970s/80s.
This is the story which the London-based media has chosen to ignore. And I can't understand why United's owners have not copied City's business model. The Glazers would have made bigger profits investing in Trafford/Salford than they have made from crumbling retail malls in run-down parts of the USA. Much as I hate MUFC such a strategy would be great for Greater Manchester as a whole.
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'This is the story which the London-based media has chosen to ignore.'
Oh it's far worse than than that. You only need to take a gander at this deeply prejudiced, ill-informed piece from The Guardian in 2022 to know that there's a barely disguised, negative agenda against our club and its owners on the part of the mainstream media.

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Kippaxpete said:
'This is the story which the London-based media has chosen to ignore.'
Oh it's far worse than than that. You only need to take a gander at this deeply prejudiced, ill-informed piece from The Guardian in 2022 to know that there's a barely disguised, negative agenda against our club and its owners on the part of the mainstream media.

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This article was full of lies. It was debunked by the council comprehensively.
 
waspish said:
The glazers haven't because they'd had to loan more money
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Exactly- housing is a long term sure bet for hedge funds and institutional investors that have the cash and want a 50 year return.

You don't borrow to do that and it isn't their area.

The money has helped regenerate east Manchester, but Manchester has a woeful record on affordable housing delivery and 3,000 homeless households in Temporary Accommodation. Not the fault of the investors but myopic by the Council. Manchester is an expensive place to live but still very deprived, a dystopian housing situation.
 
Kippaxpete said:
'This is the story which the London-based media has chosen to ignore.'
Oh it's far worse than than that. You only need to take a gander at this deeply prejudiced, ill-informed piece from The Guardian in 2022 to know that there's a barely disguised, negative agenda against our club and its owners on the part of the mainstream media.

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‘Struggling football club’? Yeah ok. Finished 9th in the Premier League and average attendance of 42,000, the 5th best in the country. Many clubs dream about struggling like that!
 
Mike N said:
‘Struggling football club’? Yeah ok. Finished 9th in the Premier League and average attendance of 42,000, the 5th best in the country. Many clubs dream about struggling like that!
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They have this strange impression we were Stockport County level before we hit the gas guzzling jackpot, fits the narrative I suppose. Regardless of the takeover, our support has always been top notch
 
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The Glazers don't have money to invest. Their mode of business is to borrow to buy things, and then load the debt onto the company, and use the company to pay off the debt (or in United's case, not).

City's owners have shit loads of money that they need to spend, and they spend/invest it with the intention of making more money. The reason they have shit loads of money is because they were born into the right family, in a country where the monarchy owns most of the country's wealth.

As 'custodians' of a football club, one is certainly better than the other. I can also understand the argument that, after the 2008 crash, Manchester needed investment, but not sure we should be quite so unquestioningly grateful.
 
Reading comments on here and the expansion thread. Would we have been better creating an exhibit centre instead of the Arena and then down the line turning the stadium into an Arena and building a new stadium with a higher capacity 100,000 instead of 60,000 -70,000 ?
 
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