NipHolmes
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Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium
But it will be adhered to.
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But it will be adhered to.
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Etihad Campus, Stadium Development and Collar Site
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unexpected item
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Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium
Alex Byars and Martyn Hawkins joined us in Jan 2012 so they should be well on the way to getting us sorted for ffp.
NipHolmes said:citysix said:ffp wont workbumbleblue said:The most interesting bit of this for me is the recruitment of the two guys from Deloitts who are fffp experts. guys who it seems help to create it....genius from those at the top.
But it will be adhered to.
Alex Byars and Martyn Hawkins joined us in Jan 2012 so they should be well on the way to getting us sorted for ffp.
Chippy_boy
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I am not sure we needed them to be honest. The coach-and-horses loophole in the system is the ability to include "non-football related income".
Such income "needs to be excluded from the calculation of relevant income if it is clearly and exclusively not related to the activities, locations or brand of the football club".
It goes on to say that "<non-football> Operations clearly using the name/brand of a club as part of their operations" are perfectly OK and can be included.
So ALL we need to do is to open the "Manchester City Mall" in Abu Dhabi and it's all sorted. Job done.
unexpected item said:NipHolmes said:citysix said:ffp wont work
But it will be adhered to.
Alex Byars and Martyn Hawkins joined us in Jan 2012 so they should be well on the way to getting us sorted for ffp.
I am not sure we needed them to be honest. The coach-and-horses loophole in the system is the ability to include "non-football related income".
Such income "needs to be excluded from the calculation of relevant income if it is clearly and exclusively not related to the activities, locations or brand of the football club".
It goes on to say that "<non-football> Operations clearly using the name/brand of a club as part of their operations" are perfectly OK and can be included.
So ALL we need to do is to open the "Manchester City Mall" in Abu Dhabi and it's all sorted. Job done.
1.618034
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Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium
Er no need for that mate even though the "thousands" remark is over the top and you're correct in in citing that the game was on a Sunday and on TV...
For example, there were 5 empty seats around me on Sunday but they're all SC holders... 2 are a bloke and his lad who live near Blackpool and the lad plays footie on Sundays, another 2 were another guy's wife and daughter who didn't come although he came along with his lad even though they're there for the vast majority of games, and the other was a guy who's got a new baby...
People have their reasons and that's fair enough in my book. Yes maybe there should be an easy way for them to re-sell their tickets but once you've paid for a seat it's up to you if you come or not. But, the games are obviously "sell outs" because all the top rows of the 3rd tier are full and it's these seats, and some along the front of level 1, that sell last. But they're always full. Plus there's always a good couple of hundred in the bogs etc at any one time during the game so these seats will appear empty occasionally too.
So, we're obviously selling available tickets for all league games meaning there must be some who can't get tickets, so the only way we can get more in is to expand... We might not then sell out every game but so what? We'd get more in buying refreshments/merchandise etc and it won't cost us anything re FFP... Plus a bigger capacity would draw bigger international/rugby games and concerts, so basically it'd be stupid not to expand and I don't think "stupid" applies to our owner/board.
It will happen.
I just wish they'd hurry up and announce something!
MaineRoadBlue said:Bentheblue said:I still find it hard to understand why there are thousands of empty seats at each "sold out" match. I have just watched the highlights of the Chelsea game and you can see loads of empty seats. It has been the same every home game this season.
You are clearly a rag you idiot.
The Chelsea game was televised and many Seasoncard holders probably avoided travel, fuel, food and time costs by watching at home; Very similar in fact to the way that most scum fans watch your shite outfit.
Er no need for that mate even though the "thousands" remark is over the top and you're correct in in citing that the game was on a Sunday and on TV...
For example, there were 5 empty seats around me on Sunday but they're all SC holders... 2 are a bloke and his lad who live near Blackpool and the lad plays footie on Sundays, another 2 were another guy's wife and daughter who didn't come although he came along with his lad even though they're there for the vast majority of games, and the other was a guy who's got a new baby...
People have their reasons and that's fair enough in my book. Yes maybe there should be an easy way for them to re-sell their tickets but once you've paid for a seat it's up to you if you come or not. But, the games are obviously "sell outs" because all the top rows of the 3rd tier are full and it's these seats, and some along the front of level 1, that sell last. But they're always full. Plus there's always a good couple of hundred in the bogs etc at any one time during the game so these seats will appear empty occasionally too.
So, we're obviously selling available tickets for all league games meaning there must be some who can't get tickets, so the only way we can get more in is to expand... We might not then sell out every game but so what? We'd get more in buying refreshments/merchandise etc and it won't cost us anything re FFP... Plus a bigger capacity would draw bigger international/rugby games and concerts, so basically it'd be stupid not to expand and I don't think "stupid" applies to our owner/board.
It will happen.
I just wish they'd hurry up and announce something!
Hamann Pineapple
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Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium
If we gained these "partner" clubs in say China or Mexico. What is to stop them buying Kolo Toure for £200M ? I don't see how FIFA could stop it.
citysix said:ffp... loopholes a plenty!
If we gained these "partner" clubs in say China or Mexico. What is to stop them buying Kolo Toure for £200M ? I don't see how FIFA could stop it.
Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium
agree, if other clubs (not on the same 'trajectory' world domination wise) are developing up to and around 60,000 stadiums, there's not a snowball in a cat's hell faced chance a club like city will sit back with a 48ker.
As the 'author' of this piece been locked out of the inner sanctum...just wondering where the info has been scraped from?
1.618034 said:MaineRoadBlue said:Bentheblue said:I still find it hard to understand why there are thousands of empty seats at each "sold out" match. I have just watched the highlights of the Chelsea game and you can see loads of empty seats. It has been the same every home game this season.
You are clearly a rag you idiot.
The Chelsea game was televised and many Seasoncard holders probably avoided travel, fuel, food and time costs by watching at home; Very similar in fact to the way that most scum fans watch your shite outfit.
Er no need for that mate even though the "thousands" remark is over the top and you're correct in in citing that the game was on a Sunday and on TV...
For example, there were 5 empty seats around me on Sunday but they're all SC holders... 2 are a bloke and his lad who live near Blackpool and the lad plays footie on Sundays, another 2 were another guy's wife and daughter who didn't come although he came along with his lad even though they're there for the vast majority of games, and the other was a guy who's got a new baby...
People have their reasons and that's fair enough in my book. Yes maybe there should be an easy way for them to re-sell their tickets but once you've paid for a seat it's up to you if you come or not. But, the games are obviously "sell outs" because all the top rows of the 3rd tier are full and it's these seats, and some along the front of level 1, that sell last. But they're always full. Plus there's always a good couple of hundred in the bogs etc at any one time during the game so these seats will appear empty occasionally too.
So, we're obviously selling available tickets for all league games meaning there must be some who can't get tickets, so the only way we can get more in is to expand... We might not then sell out every game but so what? We'd get more in buying refreshments/merchandise etc and it won't cost us anything re FFP... Plus a bigger capacity would draw bigger international/rugby games and concerts, so basically it'd be stupid not to expand and I don't think "stupid" applies to our owner/board.
It will happen.
I just wish they'd hurry up and announce something!
agree, if other clubs (not on the same 'trajectory' world domination wise) are developing up to and around 60,000 stadiums, there's not a snowball in a cat's hell faced chance a club like city will sit back with a 48ker.
As the 'author' of this piece been locked out of the inner sanctum...just wondering where the info has been scraped from?
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Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium
Im not sure if 60,000 is enough anymore,should go for a 80,000 instead.We got nearly 500,000 mancunians as potential match goers and a huge increase in tourists and JCL`s,so we should expand to require that demand.
I agree, if other clubs (not on the same 'trajectory' world domination wise) are developing up to and around 60,000 stadiums, there's not a snowball in a cat's hell faced chance a club like city will sit back with a 48ker.
As the 'author' of this piece been locked out of the inner sanctum...just wondering where the info has been scraped from?
Im not sure if 60,000 is enough anymore,should go for a 80,000 instead.We got nearly 500,000 mancunians as potential match goers and a huge increase in tourists and JCL`s,so we should expand to require that demand.
Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium
Well...at the very least. Point is, if a few other clubs are looking at around 60,000 (Spurs, Liverpool et al) then to suggest that it isn't really feasible for City to do so yet is a little silly. I don't really see 'Manchester' as just the 460,000 odd population, but would include areas even outside of Greater Manchester (parts of Cheshire - Wilmslow for example)...2 1/2+ million there already :)
EyesOfBlue said:I agree, if other clubs (not on the same 'trajectory' world domination wise) are developing up to and around 60,000 stadiums, there's not a snowball in a cat's hell faced chance a club like city will sit back with a 48ker.
As the 'author' of this piece been locked out of the inner sanctum...just wondering where the info has been scraped from?
Im not sure if 60,000 is enough anymore,should go for a 80,000 instead.We got nearly 500,000 mancunians as potential match goers and a huge increase in tourists and JCL`s,so we should expand to require that demand.
Well...at the very least. Point is, if a few other clubs are looking at around 60,000 (Spurs, Liverpool et al) then to suggest that it isn't really feasible for City to do so yet is a little silly. I don't really see 'Manchester' as just the 460,000 odd population, but would include areas even outside of Greater Manchester (parts of Cheshire - Wilmslow for example)...2 1/2+ million there already :)
Re: Etihad Campus & potential new stadium
2.68 million in greater manchester, another 700k in cheshire
somapop said:EyesOfBlue said:I agree, if other clubs (not on the same 'trajectory' world domination wise) are developing up to and around 60,000 stadiums, there's not a snowball in a cat's hell faced chance a club like city will sit back with a 48ker.
As the 'author' of this piece been locked out of the inner sanctum...just wondering where the info has been scraped from?
Im not sure if 60,000 is enough anymore,should go for a 80,000 instead.We got nearly 500,000 mancunians as potential match goers and a huge increase in tourists and JCL`s,so we should expand to require that demand.
Well...at the very least. Point is, if a few other clubs are looking at around 60,000 (Spurs, Liverpool et al) then to suggest that it isn't really feasible for City to do so yet is a little silly. I don't really see 'Manchester' as just the 460,000 odd population, but would include areas even outside of Greater Manchester (parts of Cheshire - Wilmslow for example)...2 1/2+ million there already :)
2.68 million in greater manchester, another 700k in cheshire
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