EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%

  • Total voters
    1,050
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Should be a nice Remain victory in the end I think.

5%+ winning margin I would have thought.

Hopefully not too much crying from the losing side.

Hardly nice is it. If 47% vote against something yeah you have won but only just less than half wanted a different outcome. So in a voting population of say 40m that's 18/19m people who wanted a change. Scotland are talking about having another referendum already and the majority there was 10%
 
Hardly nice is it. If 47% vote against something yeah you have won but only just less than half wanted a different outcome. So in a voting population of say 40m that's 18/19m people who wanted a change. Scotland are talking about having another referendum already and the majority there was 10%

I doubt there will be another referendum for at least a generation, which is about 5 years in political terms.
 
achieved by discriminating against 660 million people.

the only non discriminatory policy would be to let everyone in.....told you it was a stupid argument

You wouldn't be discriminating against anyone as they would all have to meet the same criteria, whether from Germany or Japan. It seems to work pretty well elsewhere.
 
Since most of the immigrants that seem to piss brexiters off are the ones who do unskilled , low paid , minimum wage menial work such as sports direct and the like .
So with that in mind , how would the Australian points based system work exactly ?
Would we be bringing highly skilled people from all over the world to work these minimum wage unskilled jobs ?
Or would we stop training our own young people, cut university and college courses and let them do the shit jobs and bring in all our doctors , lawyers and engineers from abroad ready trained ? .
I suppose with that option we could save on schools as well , just teach them enough to be obedient factory fodder just like the good old days
 
Jean-Claude Juncker was voted in by the European Parliament who are in turn made up of the MEPs that you are eligible to vote for. He has a term for 5 years and then goes. He was voted in Nov 2014. Arguably more democratic than the positioning of Cameron (whose leadership of the tories was a private ballot) and who i have never voted for and yet is making decisions for me.
In fact people who want him out but live in areas that have high tory support, or even his own constituency, will never get the chance, so much for British democracy. You cannot dethrone Cameron.

van Rompuy is the ex leader of the European Council, now run by Donald Tusk. The council is separate from the EU. He had his own advisors or in British terms a cabinet. His position is also rotated hence Donald Tusk now doing the job. He was voted in by the European council who were the heads of state. Again, those heads of state are voted for by you.

So, as the democratic principle is of paramount importance to you, you can rest easy knowing that your vote is in there, somewhere, just like everyone elses, including those that have different views from you, but the principle stands.

To vote Remain is the democratic right of anyone, to call it indefensible is to argue against democracy.
Lol
 
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