Serious answer? Nobody knows. Almost certainly a short term economic price. But what price sovereignty, environment and "softer" factors?
Not sure where it that post I made any claim to be the fount of all knowledge on Kent? You a resident? Pray enlighten me? is Kent full of newly built unoccupied homes? Are the people of Kent clamoring for them to be built regardless of the effect on the values of their homes and any loans secured on them? Is the Kentish infrastructure up to date and fit for purpose? If so that may explain the HS2 folly....................
Honest serious question - I keep hearing the phrase sovereignty and that we have surrendered it or risk surrendering it - how would you as someone who appears to be in the out camp define it and what do win stand to recover by leaving?
Perhaps you could, as an inner, explain why you are against democratic self-government?
Maybe you should go down and take a look. Is there someone who could lend you the money for a ticket and put you on the train?
It was a serious question - but as an inner I recall voting quite a few times over the last 35 years in democratic elections where the winners made decisions as a government - it was democratic because when I didn't vote for them I still went along with it was they were the winners. I am all pro democratic self government I just really don't buy or stress out over the idea that everything is run from Brussels - in my view it clearly isn't.
This is the kind of debate we should be having in the country rather than just resorting to sound bite cheap shots and scare mongering from both sides in my opinion.
Even if the situation currently isn't one of EU overlords, that situation is possible. They've already overruled the results of referenda in Ireland and Greece and are likely to do so with the Netherlands. They are unaccountable too.
They aren't currently using that power, but imagine it if someone came in and did exercise its power over democratically elected governments. We've signed away too much IMO and I'd like that power back. Merkel's already tested the water to a certain extent - inviting millions of otherwise illegal immigrants into Europe and then trying to enforce EU member states taking a quota of their number. What right did she have to do such a thing, regardless of whether you agree with her or not?
It was a serious question - but as an inner I recall voting quite a few times over the last 35 years in democratic elections where the winners made decisions as a government - it was democratic because when I didn't vote for them I still went along with it was they were the winners. I am all pro democratic self government I just really don't buy or stress out over the idea that everything is run from Brussels - in my view it clearly isn't.
This is the kind of debate we should be having in the country rather than just resorting to sound bite cheap shots and scare mongering from both sides in my opinion.
Your sarcasm does little to recommend your views to me. I was hoping for some informed insight for me to better understand the issue however that was wasted eh?
If I want to go to Kent by the way I have a car - a new one - and the money to pay my way there and back thanks should I wish to see for myself. I may actually go and hopefully enter into some honest and learned debate with a local.