EU referendum

[blueonblue]

Its not ISIS thats pushing it with Russia but the EU shit stirring and trying to expand into Ukraine.

 

[Chippy_boy]

This latest explosion of horse shit from the Prime minister is truly remarkable, even for this fine exponent of lies and nonsense. The fact that our country becoming embroiled in unpleasantness closer to home than the middle east or beyond is infact highly more probable with a vote in. To suggest that by voting out we would be more likely to face wars and destruction is laughable, to suggest that we would be responsible for wars elsewhere due to the potential combatants not having access to wise council by him and his like from these islands is more so....who the fuck does this clown think he is, he is a no mark leader of one of 28? states in an unworkable union that holds nothing but a very dark future if we remain any part of it.

I would suggest that the best thing the British electorate can do for the rest of Europe is to vote out and lead by example thus giving the other peoples of this continent the initiative to stand up and demand their own referendum to make a choice. Cameron is frankly a traitor and should be hung.

The usual drivel we can expect from you I see. "A traitor and should be hung" FFS, your lefty bile is so intense, I don't know why you don't just emigrate to Cuba or something.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Worse case scenario is 2% tariffs, the effect of which is less than our current net contribution. The natural fluctuation in currency values dwarfs the effect of such tariffs, so why the predictions of economic meltdown?

This is a fair point I think, and one to which I don't know the answer personally. But I can only speculate that there's more to it than just the financial implication of the tariff, perhaps to do with more generally how easy it is to do business. I cannot imagine other countries would have struggled for years to get a trade agreement in place if the "prize" for years of jumping through hoops was simply avoiding a 2% levy. There's surely more to it than that.

 

[purplenose]

The usual drivel we can expect from you I see. "A traitor and should be hung" FFS, your lefty bile is so intense, I don't know why you don't just emigrate to Cuba or something.

You think I am a lefty? wide of the mark there....never the less I think Cameron is a disgrace to this country, now were you going to tell us why you think he is right about the spectre of war and destruction that will rain down on us should we vote out, or is that beyond your ability?

 

[Mike D]

Cameron finally lost the plot today predicting wars in the EU seriously you couldn't make this shit up http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-war-nonsense-david-cameron-history-eu-debate

It comes as no surprise considering that he thinks that you can run a vile racist campaign and win the Mayor of London campaign. Fortunately the people of London ain't that to swallow that crap.

 

[Chippy_boy]

You think I am a lefty? wide of the mark there....never the less I think Cameron is a disgrace to this country, now were you going to tell us why you think he is right about the spectre of war and destruction that will rain down on us should we vote out, or is that beyond your ability?

I can't be arsed.

 

[purplenose]

I can't be arsed.

Should that really say no I cant justify the utter bollocks the Prime Minister has spouted?

 

[Monkfish]

Should that really say no I cant justify the utter bollocks the Prime Minister has spouted?

A bit like your bollocks of 'blood being spilt' if we stay in Europe? Though I am too most suprised that you could possibly get confused as a lefty, though I guess the far left and the far right share some values...

 

[purplenose]

Its not ISIS thats pushing it with Russia but the EU shit stirring and trying to expand into Ukraine.

Its a good point, but the EU is perhaps on this one not the main culprit, that is Nato whos acceptance of the former Warsaw pact nations was and remains a fairly risky and viewed with some justification as provocative move. The weapons being based in those countries by NATO take it a step further. Unwise in my view but on this one the EU whilst not innocent are not the main expansionists in this instance.

As for Putin and the EU I think he is happy to sit back and watch the whole thing descend ever more into the abyss, I dont think it will need any help from him to do so.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

It's getting fooking desperate now. They lose the arguments on economy, democracy and immigration so now they say it will be world war 3 if we leave. It's bollox. He is actually concerned that the vote is so close and so he will say anything to keep his job.

By the way can someone list please the renegotiation that Cameron achieved with the Eu before the referendum. I know he never did well but what did he actually get?