EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%

  • Total voters
    1,050
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I watched the Andrew Neil video and thought Osborne held his own. Neil alway follows the same tactic of asking for obscure information that at first glance feels like the interviewee should be able to answer - then constantly repeats the question. Not really in the public interest IMHO.

I didn't see the Cameron footage and yes it's embarrassing for him if that's what he said. However, he was trying to get concessions from the EU at the time so couldn't exactly say that we are beholdent to the rest of the EU!!

He asked perfectly reasonable question on the in campaigns figures and Osborne was unable to answer and constantly shifted the conversation but Neil wouldn't let him, something a decent interviewer shouldn't.

As for Cameron, he is an absolute fraud as far as this campaign and referendum is concerned and is finished politically regardless of the outcome.
 
He asked perfectly reasonable question on the in campaigns figures and Osborne was unable to answer and constantly shifted the conversation but Neil wouldn't let him, something a decent interviewer shouldn't.

As for Cameron, he is an absolute fraud as far as this campaign and referendum is concerned and is finished politically regardless of the outcome.

Two bob journalism from Neil. Asking for figures on a policy that's only just been implemented.

I am not a fan of Cameron either!
 
You underestimate a pissed off British public..most elections are greeted with apathy..low turn outs..if the tories fuck up significantly..I think you would be surprised

If we stay in Corbyn's supporters might have some justification to argue that he's played a blinder by keeping a low profile (rather like Theresa May)

If we vote out his reputation will plummet (even further). He'll be branded as either devious (wanted out but pretended he wanted in) or lazy and incompetent (wanted in but did SFA to make it happen)
 
Not seeing that post. Never mind.

Never mind - it was the post AlgarveBlu posted about his Dutch acquaintances.

You could always try and respond to the one I posted on the NHS a little earlier. It also contains wider information such as we would be back to square one financially as soon as we agreed the price to re-enter the single market!
 
Never mind - it was the post AlgarveBlu posted about his Dutch acquaintances.

You could always try and respond to the one I posted on the NHS a little earlier. It also contains wider information such as we would be back to square one financially as soon as we agreed the price to re-enter the single market!
I´ve just got back home, i´ll have a look after my coffee.
 
Two bob journalism from Neil. Asking for figures on a policy that's only just been implemented.

I am not a fan of Cameron either!

What policy mate?

His line of questioning was to prove that the policy was backed up by entirely made up figures from the amount a family will lose given a leave vote to our pensioners and the questions went on to show the complete hypocrisy of both Cameron and Osborne on the EU and Turkey's possible future membership with an interesting nugget coming from it that despite Cameron just 6 years ago championing Turkey and its future EU membership, yet now saying they are a million miles away and maybe not for a 1000 years will they get in, we have given them £1Billion direct from the tax payer to speed up the process of getting them in!

What the actual fuck is going on with these two?
 
The 'Remainers' remind me of the pro leave mob in the Scottish Referendum. Nasty ,shouty people unable to accept they may be wrong. I am still undecided but having seen our glorious Chancellor tell Andrew Neil that if we leave 'we'll lose control of our economy ' is unbelievable- what good is he then.. Along with Neil dissecting Camerons blatant lies to Turkey supporting then distancing himself shows these people cannot be trusted. When all else fails they merely attack Farage-pretty pathetic
 
Excellent comments mate.....and Good guess by the way!;).....I'm early 40's, with a family.....Not much point me linking or copying anymore reports trying to strengthen my argument to vote in because feel people listen only to what they want to and at the end of the day everyone will vote on their own life experiences and do a risk/reward on their own personal situation anyway....for example: one of the first comments I saw you make(think it was you?;), which I respected a great deal was when you said you would think strongly about voting out but likely to vote in because of concerns over risking customers investments...this showed me we all have to way up the pros and cons to our vote and how it will impact our own situation.....for my own situation the EU might not be perfect and has some strange ways but (only my opinion based on my own research and balancing the risk/reward) is that voting to "stay" is Best for me and for the family....staying in my opinion is the "safer" option........Listening to all the "outs" in tv question time, in the news and forums etc...its clear we'll be stepping out into the unknown....no one has a clear plan for when we leave and no one knows when/how or what any new agreements will be because its never done before....I can only bet on, what I see and what I know.....I wouldnt be a responsible father, husband etc....if I voted any other way.....so the vote for me is very simple! ;) thanks again for your input to this thread....I for one appreciate it!;)

I think you e got me mixed up with SWP he's an IFA I think and recall that post so you're just going to have to disrespect me now ;-)

I've posted before that Brexit would not initially be good for me but I frankly don't care too much and it will never be anywhere near as challenging after the eu unleashed troika on the population - I felt bad for a lot of people here.
 
What policy mate?

His line of questioning was to prove that the policy was backed up by entirely made up figures from the amount a family will lose given a leave vote to our pensioners and the questions went on to show the complete hypocrisy of both Cameron and Osborne on the EU and Turkey's possible future membership with an interesting nugget coming from it that despite Cameron just 6 years ago championing Turkey and its future EU membership, yet now saying they are a million miles away and maybe not for a 1000 years will they get in, we have given them £1Billion direct from the tax payer to speed up the process of getting them in!

What the actual fuck is going on with these two?

Yes the line of questioning about the cost to a family of leaving the EU and the Turkey stuff was pretty good. It was the questioning about how many people had been sent home after six months was pretty average. I've seen a lot of Neil's interviews and repeats a point that the interviewee couldn't reasonably have this answer for (in this case because the policy has only just been implemented). It's a boring tactic when you've seen it used so often.

On Turkey, I be done a bit of work with their biggest Companies. They are cash rich and I'm talking mega bucks. For example a lot of household appliances and utensils are made in Turkey. Away from ruling politicians there is not a lot of appetite for joining the EU amongst their economists and educationalists. They dislike how people in the EU tend to refer to them like a third world nation when many Turks (particularly in the Cities) are sophisticated people.

I agree that the in campaign Leaders have been hypocritical about Turkey but they are many years away from joining the EU - if they join at all!
 
I think you e got me mixed up with SWP he's an IFA I think and recall that post so you're just going to have to disrespect me now ;-)

I've posted before that Brexit would not initially be good for me but I frankly don't care too much and it will never be anywhere near as challenging after the eu unleashed troika on the population - I felt bad for a lot of people here.
You're far too kind.
 
I expect the EU will be thrown into turmoil if we vote out. It will take them several months to agree what their position will be. The only thing they'll agree on is that the UK will not be allowed to enjoy all of the benefits of membership but with none of the obligations. Similarly I expect that very quickly severe divisions will open up among the Leavers once they have to agree a negotiating strategy (other than we want all of the benefits but none of the obligations).

My guess is that it will all became deadlocked very quickly and the EU will sit back and hope that the continuing uncertainty damages the UK economy to such an extent that there is a 2nd referendum.

I think there is another factor in the scenario you outlines in that time frame - the uk will have 2 years to continue with existing agreement as I understand it. The pressure from some of the other nations for their own ref will be loud and the more the eu plays hardball to make an example of us they will be very busy trying to keep the whole project together. It will be a game of chess but it will be one player against 26 others which is why they can never move their pieces in these situations.
 
Well i´ve read it; shocking a left wing labour Lord would put forward a case for remain.

Yawn. Ara's the guy who led the fight back against smears about the NHS in the last US Presidential race when the Republicans had to eat humble pie. He's also a pioneering surgeon but I guess you wouldn't be interested in that!
 
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I think you e got me mixed up with SWP he's an IFA I think and recall that post so you're just going to have to disrespect me now ;-)

I've posted before that Brexit would not initially be good for me but I frankly don't care too much and it will never be anywhere near as challenging after the eu unleashed troika on the population - I felt bad for a lot of people here.

Seen alot of good posts from you mate......so you still got my respect!;) Must have read 200pages the last few days....difficult to keep track! he!....cheers mate!;)
 
I think you e got me mixed up with SWP he's an IFA I think and recall that post so you're just going to have to disrespect me now ;-)

I've posted before that Brexit would not initially be good for me but I frankly don't care too much and it will never be anywhere near as challenging after the eu unleashed troika on the population - I felt bad for a lot of people here.

IFA? Thought he was more a KFA 2bh...
 
You're far too kind.

Slightly off topic I would of thought in your industry changes to financial services legislation and tax regimes linked to eu investments would create a lot of opportunities as an IFA ( I have never worked in that field) if the uk left? In my previous employment volatility was Christmas come early, churn and burn if you know what I mean :-)
 
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