EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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BimboBob said:
Rules? Utter rubbish. No European leader will agree to the EU putting rules on our exports to them. Take the Germans for instance. It will do them more harm than good if this happened. Their car industry would be up in arms for one.

We leave. We sort out trade agreements. Simple. It's in everyone's interest to have a common market. It's not to have the EU.
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It's our choice if we want full access to the market we will have to obey their rules, if we want to trade as an external country and accept tariffs etc then we can do what we wish . It will be our choice
 
Monkfish said:
they have done just dandy, thanks to their massive resource of minerals to export to their resource free neighbours and a huge increase in the global price of these minerals

which is similar to the UK economy in no way whatsoever
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Australia is in a deep economic crisis growing at 3% . Australia has more natural resources, agriculture and everything else than just about any other country and a tiny population. We have stuff that comes from here , that can't be replicated and people need. The same reason Canada and the US could do without blocs and why Norway can too.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
How does Australia manage then EB2? An economy smaller than the UK but it seems to be doing alright, what benefits do they have that we won't have? Just curious.
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Sheep, grain, rice, fruit, huge dairy producer, copper, iron ore, oil, natural gas, zinc, uranium, sunshine, coal, gold , bauxite, education for Asia and lots and lots and lots of space with a population not much bigger than London and the biggest growing market in the world on our doorstep and Australia closer to China than any other western country after Gough's brave step to recognise them.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Why is the pound depreciating against the threat of an out vote? Have you ever considered that, given the state of migrants and immigrants and refugees in Europe ahead of the summer months when it's likely to get worse by the day, it may be depreciating against the thought that we might vote to stay in?
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Not unless it had already been priced for an exit which it hadn't
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Not really, there's too many EU supporters ther in front of me (stupid answer I know, but only matching the comment posted). Regarding the comment about the Australian economy, our economy is about twice as large in terms of current prices than that of Australia... Regardless of what it is they produce, so again I ask, how come it is thought they can manage comfortably and we can't. They still have to do business with neighbouring countries and further afield. If you can't give a decent reply, please font bother 80).
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It's a simple economic case based on demand and supply and what countries need. The UK does not supply much at all that other countries in time cannot reproduce and it has high demand for materials it cannot produce.

Australia has huge supply of materials that other countries cannot produce and whilst imports are huge most imports to Aus are things Australia could produce but doesn't as they are more expensive.

Therefore economically the UK economy is very high risk from the developing world as they expand their expertise in technology, pharmaceuticals etc whereas Aus will continue to be able to trade as Australia has stuff these countries will continue to need.

Add that and the fact Australia is on the doorstep and it's fairly obvious why countries like Australia don't need a bloc in the same way.
 
The obnoxious prick Lord Rose letting slip why so many middle-classes and businesses are leading the In charge. It's easy to see why some Unions see good in the EU but their job could be made so much easier by Brexit.
 
This is just going to bring all the right wing loonies out of the woodwork. Some of these Tories are bone-fide demented cases. IDS and Boris to name but two.
 
Pam said:
This is just going to bring all the right wing loonies out of the woodwork. Some of these Tories are bone-fide demented cases. IDS and Boris to name but two.
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It's right wing to want control over borders and want electable law makers?
 
Everyone needs to look at how the EU has evolved to possibly understand the problems it faces now and in the future. Originally 6 members with a further 6 joining in the early 1970 s I believe is the backbone of the institution and the idea was a good one at the time. However we now have something like 26+ members many of the newcomers being net contributors and motions to increase this even more. So basically Europe has got much bigger and with it impossible to manage as a group.

So you know as it stands today the very Union is being stretched for a number of those members not just the UK, the difference being the UK can opt out when others cannot. It is failing and unelected organisation which cannot continue in its present format.

Does the UK become the first to see the light and act or will the whole fiasco and tragedy of the borders situation evolving daily force a change.

A great idea that is now unworkable in my opinion.
 
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Why can't we just have trade deals, why does Brussels have to interfere with our justice system etc, I'm leaning more to out these days.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Why can't we just have trade deals, why does Brussels have to interfere with our justice system etc, I'm leaning more to out these days.
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There is no reason. If this is what the rest of Europe really wants (which I hightly doubt looking at the rise of nationalist parties all over the place) then we should move aside and let them get on with it.
 
QT now........ In campaigner ................. scare scare scare
Out campaginer.............. scare..... scare..... scare..........
Biggest decision in a generation and the quality of the debate if fucking depressing so far..
 
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