EU referendum

[bluethrunthru]

There are strong rumours in Westminster that Bojo would offer Farrage a job in a future Tory Government. Might be BS of course?

That will be the Boris that this morning SKY News are running a 2013 interview where he categorically states the UK benefits from and should remain in the EU is it?

The man is a two faced lying prick - an opportunist who has taken the most important decision this nation will make in decades and hijacked it for his own bid to mount a coup against Cameron and Osborn. I have no pity for either of them but cannot abide the idea the Johnson is manipulating this for his own ends - he is a fucking traitor.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Spot on. All should live with the result.

Either way, life will go on!

I agree - I get annoyed with those in the Brexit side who say if we vote to remain the "battle goes on" - they campaign under a banner for democracy and yet have no intention of abiding by the outcome of a democratic vote. You can already see Farage is lining up his excuse to fight on with his moans over the extension to voter registration.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

That will be the Boris that this morning SKY News are running a 2013 interview where he categorically states the UK benefits from and should remain in the EU is it?

The man is a two faced lying prick - an opportunist who has taken the most important decision this nation will make in decades and hijacked it for his own bid to mount a coup against Cameron and Osborn. I have no pity for either of them but cannot abide the idea the Johnson is manipulating this for his own ends - he is a fucking traitor.

Hope they are running the exact same about turn from Call me Dave!

 

[Gelsons Dad]

I agree - I get annoyed with those in the Brexit side who say if we vote to remain the "battle goes on" - they campaign under a banner for democracy and yet have no intention of abiding by the outcome of a democratic vote. You can already see Farage is lining up his excuse to fight on with his moans over the extension to voter registration.

Where in this campaign is it stated that the democratic process ends after the vote?
The idea that no one should ever mention EU membership after the vote is in itself non-democratic. If 40% of the vote is out does that mean those 40% no longer count? The exact same argument applies the other way. If the vote is to leave can the idea of rejoining never be mentioned? of course not! It's only the EU that doesn't like people expressing their opinion. They've already said that other countries will not be allowed to follow the UK's lead and have a referendum. That is exactly what the out campaign is challenging. The un-democratic stance of the EU and its 5 kings.

 

[InMyLifetime-BaconChops]

I remember rolling my eyes when he was on. Australia not teaming up with New Zealand, nor Japan with China? The oddball seems to have forgot T-PP.
They have signed up with China expressing an interest. There are 12 countries involved with it Brunei, Chile, New Zealand, Singapore, Australia, Canada, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, Peru, United States and Vietnam. The thought that the UK can go wandering about and deal with these countries on an individual basis is dead. Canada are currently involved with the EU for the CETA trade deal.

Of the top 15 economic countries in the world 3/4 will be under the influence of greater trading blocs. Those that are left, the BRIC countries, good luck in getting favourable deals with them.

United States T-PP
China
Japan T-PP
Germany EU
United Kingdom EU
France EU
India
Italy EU
Brazil
Canada T-PP
South Korea T-PP
Russia
Australia T-PP
Spain EU
Mexico T-PP

TPP doesn't stop making trade deals with other nations not part of it, hence why TTIP is being made.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Our Youth unemployment is around 16% mainly because we didn't join the Euro YT. The facts are there for all to see. The EU isn't working and a vote to remain is a vote for no jobs for our kids.

Where do you get that from?? For a start, our kids can get jobs in over twenty countries if they choose. They can go to Asia or America too, but not as easily. We are not just British, we are European. That's simply my point and i struggle when swp, prestwich and gelson don't get it.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Boris in Pienaar's politics on R5Live now..... all the experts, economists and world markets views about the effects of Brexit on the UK economy are the result of them being deceived by the Remain campaign? Market deceived? Really? His Breixt stance is " a long held deep inner belief" he tells him and the Euro is the root of all our problems - a currency we are not in?

 

[InMyLifetime-BaconChops]

That will be the Boris that this morning SKY News are running a 2013 interview where he categorically states the UK benefits from and should remain in the EU is it?

The man is a two faced lying prick - an opportunist who has taken the most important decision this nation will make in decades and hijacked it for his own bid to mount a coup against Cameron and Osborn. I have no pity for either of them but cannot abide the idea the Johnson is manipulating this for his own ends - he is a fucking traitor.

Tad harsh?

My views have certainly changed about the EU in the last 3 years; can't his?

 

[geoff clipp]

A gentleman called Christopher McGinty lodged an e-petition on the Parliament website last February 29th. Since the murder of Jo Cox MP, the site signatures ‘have surged’ according to yesterday’s Independent. It was at 20,000 when the Indie published its existence. As of this morning, it’s at 34,000. Clearly, although campaigning in the EU referendum has been ‘suspended’, the work of attaching blame to the murder firmly upon Brexiteers continues unabated.

The Independent – one of the most consistent finger-pointers at a so-called (but non-existent) link between Tommy Mair and the Leave campaign – led with this yesterday:

Further down – a long way further down – the piece mentioned that the chances of the petition being debated before polling day were zero. However, the Indie features this little wheeze….upon which The Slog posted twelve days ago:

https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2016/0...-been-expecting-gets-a-media-surge-allegedly/

“A woman MP and EU supporter has been murdered.”

Am I the only one seeing a total disconnect in the above association?
Try substituting the word ‘EU’ for ‘Manchester United”. Now how would you react?
Or how about “A woman MP with a penchant for Chinese food has been murdered.”?
Talk about scraping the barrel. This has to be one of the worst media attempts at manipulation I have ever seen!

Oh come on! She wasn't murdered because she liked Chinese food or because she supported Manchester United. She was murdered by somebody who disagreed with her politics so of course her political stance is relevant.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

Where do you get that from?? For a start, our kids can get jobs in over twenty countries if they choose. They can go to Asia or America too, but not as easily. We are not just British, we are European. That's simply my point and i struggle when swp, prestwich and gelson don't get it.

Our kids, and I have 2 in the bracket, can choose to seek employment across the globe. They will be attracted to and more likely to gain employment in those countries that have jobs to offer. The freedom of movement has little effect on where they will work. The availability of jobs will. There are no jobs in the EU which is why the youth unemployment figures are so high! If anyone isn't getting it, I'm afraid it's you.