EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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No voter needs to bother complicating matters with the incidentals of what a Brexit would mean. All you need to know is the elite establishment are scared you will vote them out of a job-- and that's a good thing.

Obama- "DON'T leave the EU!"

UN- "DON'T leave the EU!"

Cameron- "DON'T leave the EU!"

Fat Brussel EU politicians- "DON'T leave the EU!"

Hillary Clinton- "DON'T leave the EU!"

NWO establishment- "DON'T leave the EU!"

Globalist Banksters- "DON'T leave the EU!"



TRUMP- 'GET OUT OF THE EU NOW IF YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOU!'
 
AlgarveBlu said:
Some good points there but don't believe that he ex-pat vote will be all pro remain and you need to remember that most of them won't even get their shit registered to vote - I've spoken to a load last Friday and the ones eligible to vote were half half but they all had in common is they couldn't work out how to do it (couldn't be arsed basically) - you'll also get a different picture from expats outside the eu - I know ealing's not a good example of that.

On the football forums I would say I have seen way more polls leaning to out than in, most of the London clubs (millwall surprisingly in the high 80s :-)) to get better diversity you can see the leave vote prevailing highly on the likes of the armed forces website, farmers website, cycling, golf, camping, fishing all the car clubs you name it - naturally the big student forum is well in front on remain but just reading the reasons why shows they shouldn't be allowed to vote until they've had at least a few years of life experiences.

I've been surprised at the reaction as well in the last 5 question time debates where the claps definitely seem louder for the leave arguments and last nights session in Aberdeen was surprisingly vocal on the leave but not as much as the ones held in England. Saying all that I think the remain will have it though - it's hard to expect your average joe blogs in the street to get past a daily barrage of fear from everyone.
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Professional ex pats here generally remain , but they are the same demographics as people who are remain in the UK ie most would be highly educated working for multinationals at least round here. What is clear is that the out voice as an individual is much louder as happened with Scotland , will be interesting to see what the silent majority do.
 
EalingBlue2 said:
It could be that or it could be economic chaos for a decade and tens of millions more out of work and countries fragmenting. A break up of a bloc like this isn't happy Chappy beds of roses
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Yes and whilst we do disagree my friend on many things , I do have a genuine concern about this point and it is a very strong point you make and we do need to pause and think about. There is a growing fascist element in the Central European countries , even Germany God forbid, we have a very weak Southern European area Economically with a lot of anti Eu sentiment . So if we did leave and that had a domino effect across Europe that I do worry about.

Us leaving and the economics of that I take with a pinch of salt tbh , the total collapse of the European Union I do worry about.

However I reconcile the point with the fact that only an out vote will give us and other countries the right to come together and start something a fresh which proper reflects a genuine economic cooperation Union, not a political powerhouse which does want even more power and a greater dictatorship from the centre. In fact as a genuine economic forum I do believe it only needs 20 percent of its political base. Why do we need all these commisssioners and meps anyway?

If we vote in , it will just be you had your chance and it will just become more powerful, turkey in and a stronger eu controlled by Germany and the French and even greater integration and centralisation and thus sadly democracy.
 
YPhrunts said:
So the scenarios are the same?
Horses for courses mate.
The aftermath will be Ukip's moment.
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I don't think it will, at least not in the short run, if in the medium term things get much worse then it could be then. Equally a brexit win could kill UKIP as they will get the brunt of the inevitable short term problems and they would have no reason to be if Britain became the Eden they promise
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Yes and whilst we do disagree my friend on many things , I do have a genuine concern about this point and it is a very strong point you make and we do need to pause and think about. There is a growing fascist element in the Central European countries , even Germany God forbid, we have a very weak Southern European area Economically with a lot of anti Eu sentiment . So if we did leave and that had a domino effect across Europe that I do worry about.

Us leaving and the economics of that I take with a pinch of salt tbh , the total collapse of the European Union I do worry about.

However I reconcile the point with the fact that only an out vote will give us and other countries the right to come together and start something a fresh which proper reflects a genuine economic cooperation Union, not a political powerhouse which does want even more power and a greater dictatorship from the centre. In fact as a genuine economic forum I do believe it only needs 20 percent of its political base. Why do we need all these commisssioners and meps anyway?

If we vote in , it will just be you had your chance and it will just become more powerful, turkey in and a stronger eu controlled by Germany and the French and even greater integration and centralisation and thus sadly democracy.
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The problem is though the European economy cannot handle even a few years of chaos and that Includes Britain. With 1.7 trillion debt and building any impact to Britains improving economy could have big impacts for decades and Britain is in a better position than many.

Either way in or out EU or non EU , Europe and the U.K. Will continue down the same trends they have been on for many decades and given debt and demographics it will only accelerate
 
EalingBlue2 said:
I don't think it will, at least not in the short run, if in the medium term things get much worse then it could be then. Equally a brevity win could kill UKIP as they will get the brunt of the inevitable short term problems and they would have no reason to be if Britain became the Eden they promise
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Well if I understand your cursive style you are correct in that if we Brexit Farage will be out of a job as will Daniel Hammond and all the other MEP's. Whether they will be out of a job back home is a different issue. Go back and listen to Daniel Hammond's speech at the London Paladium. The first ten seconds will do.
 
EalingBlue2 said:
Professional ex pats here generally remain , but they are the same demographics as people who are remain in the UK ie most would be highly educated working for multinationals at least round here. What is clear is that the out voice as an individual is much louder as happened with Scotland , will be interesting to see what the silent majority do.
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The silent majority will vote remain and so will begin another generation of people who will appear on our screens in 20 years time going but,but,but they told me it was much safer to stay in the eu and we wouldn't end up picking up the pieces for the implosion of the euro because we weren't in it.

I have unfortunately spent the best part of my life working for big private banks and you are being taken for a mug if you don't think the people in this system backing the remain agenda are not doing it for their own financial positions and trust me it's not so that the average guy on the street has a better life.
 
EalingBlue2 said:
It could be that or it could be economic chaos for a decade and tens of millions more out of work and countries fragmenting. A break up of a bloc like this isn't happy Chappy beds of roses
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Well you would say that wouldn't you. Given your belief.

And you couldn't care less how MEPs are allowed to look at important documents.

You just want everyone in the uk to be good little proles as you know if doesn't affect you.
 
EalingBlue2 said:
Professional ex pats here generally remain , but they are the same demographics as people who are remain in the UK ie most would be highly educated working for multinationals at least round here. What is clear is that the out voice as an individual is much louder as happened with Scotland , will be interesting to see what the silent majority do.
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You being the exception?

Professional, intelligent, educated and highly paid expats out here are very much in favour of an exit.
 
EalingBlue2 said:
It could be that or it could be economic chaos for a decade and tens of millions more out of work and countries fragmenting. A break up of a bloc like this isn't happy Chappy beds of roses
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Also you care nothing of people using their voices and making their politians leave the EU and make it go back to what it was (a free trading block), because what if....

It's more politics of fear. Your adopted country would still yet be discovered if you'd been captain instead of Cook. Guys like you are too scared to leave sight of the shore.
 
SWP's back said:
Also you care nothing of people using their voices and making their politians leave the EU and make it go back to what it was (a free trading block), because what if....

It's more politics of fear. Your adopted country would still yet be discovered if you'd been captain instead of Cook. Guys like you are too scared to leave sight of the shore.
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Haha. If we sail to the edge of the EU we might fall off the edge into space.
 
Helmet Cole said:
Haha. If we sail to the edge of the EU we might fall off the edge into space.
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Good job there was the European, van Diemen who got to Australia first and discovered large areas of unknown parts of the world to blow that myth.
The UKippers of their day would still be burning witches and other forward thinking ideas.
 
KenTheLandlord said:
Good job there was the European, van Diemen who got to Australia first and discovered large areas of unknown parts of the world to blow that myth.
The UKippers of their day would still be burning witches and other forward thinking ideas.
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It was actually Willen Janszoon as opposed to the European Cook but the point remains.
 
hilts said:
We won't be in schengen of that I'm pretty certain, no party would win a general election if they agreed to it.
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Doubt we'd have a choice if we wanted to be in the EEA. Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein all had to be part of it. As you say though, it wouldn't be acceptable politically, so we'd end up outside the EEA and would have to spend years trying to negotiate a deal.
 
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