dickie davies
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Farage said that 12.5% of our exports went to EU countries. Cameron said it was 50%
Who's telling the truth?
Who's telling the truth?
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FanchesterCity
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I still think it's harder to sell the 'in' - we already have most of it, there's no big dream to sell.
The 'out' guys can paint a picture of progress and improved standards of living which is always going to be warmly received.
Farage is selling greener grass on the other side - which MIGHT be true.
Cameron is selling the grass we already have - not so appealing.
The 'out' guys can paint a picture of progress and improved standards of living which is always going to be warmly received.
Farage is selling greener grass on the other side - which MIGHT be true.
Cameron is selling the grass we already have - not so appealing.
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Predictable.
bluethrunthru
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Cameron is a fucking dullard - he's like a recording. All polished and practice but doesn't give the impression he means it
It's like he's desperate to keep his job and does not have the best interests of the people at heart(whatever they maybe)
I have to agree with the latter point - my fear was this referendum would become a battle solely over immigration when its about much more than that - its rapidly becoming a vehicle used as a Dave vs Boris battleground for the top dogs job................ the debate, vote and outcome is becoming a bloody sideshow
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I still think it's harder to sell the 'in' - we already have most of it, there's no big dream to sell.
The 'out' guys can paint a picture of progress and improved standards of living which is always going to be warmly received.
Farage is selling greener grass on the other side - which MIGHT be true.
Cameron is selling the grass we already have - not so appealing.
True, but Cameron is terrible imo.
FanchesterCity
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Farage said that 12.5% of our exports went to EU countries. Cameron said it was 50%
Who's telling the truth?
No, it's 12.5% of our entire economy is trade with the EU
50% of our exports are to the EU
Most of our economy like most other nations is day to day buying from local shops / supermarkets, hence only 12.5% are with the EU.
dannybcity
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This would have been better had they asked each of them exactly the same questions.
80s Shorts
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Oh he loves his proposal. Pity nobody has told him it neednt be a proposal if we left.
inchy14
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Why does he keep saying "he's got" his proposals to the EU?
They've not decided on them yet as far as I'm aware and won't make a decision until after the referendum which if we stay in they'll fucking ignore anyway.
He's a lying charlatan.
They've not decided on them yet as far as I'm aware and won't make a decision until after the referendum which if we stay in they'll fucking ignore anyway.
He's a lying charlatan.
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We are going to be leaving!
dickie davies
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he keeps going on about the car inustry. Someone needs to ask him about the steel industry
80s Shorts
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Here we go, Iran gonna nuke us. Fucking clown.
FanchesterCity
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Anybody up against Farage has a difficult task. It's made worse because Cameron is selling the status quo and Farage selling greener grass.
With UKIP most people thought Farage was very good, but could see his policies didn't really stack up, but this is different, it's hard to disprove the future.
Finally Cameron showed a bit of personality with his 'the EU can drive me mad!'... it just comes across as more human. Farage is a master of it, Cameron's not.
With UKIP most people thought Farage was very good, but could see his policies didn't really stack up, but this is different, it's hard to disprove the future.
Finally Cameron showed a bit of personality with his 'the EU can drive me mad!'... it just comes across as more human. Farage is a master of it, Cameron's not.
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We are going to be leaving!
If Cameron is the man to convince people to vote 'remain' then the 'remain' camp is struggling
That said, I still think there will be a very slight win for 'remain' as people will stick with what they know
bluethrunthru
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What does Dave say about that.............?
I only ask coz every fucking answer starts with that phrase
I only ask coz every fucking answer starts with that phrase
80s Shorts
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He doesnt like the European parliament. Really selling this.
George Hannah
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It'll be Boris and the Donald in tandem if things carry on like this
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If Cameron is the man to convince people to vote 'remain' then the 'remain' camp is struggling
That said, I still think there will be a very slight win for 'remain' as people will stick with what they know
Boris hasnt started yet :-/
FanchesterCity
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What a sad state of affairs when such an important decision is so heavily influenced by personality
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