EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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Mike D said:
I am talking about Brexit claiming to be the voice of the people is simply a fraud https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-eu-working-class-culture-hijacked-help-elite

And for the suckers that have taken this in good luck to you. To be perfectly honest if it wasn't important I wouldn't bother and its no wonder Corbyn can't be arsed. The campaign has been vile divisive and its only the fact that Brexit will cost us in the short and long term in the economic and social sense. I despise Cameron and Osborne in so many ways but you keep asking yourself this question what do these folk on the Brexit side want? What's in for them this talk of sovereignty is BS because what they really want is less regulation which means less HR and workers workers rights. Then there's the centre point of this immigration which they know is a lie we are a service lead therefore in simple terms you don't sell your services to immigrants then your economy doesn't grow.

What this is all about is control screwing us and helping them. So great british people like Sir James Dyson who loves his country so much he's taken it abroad and taken his office off shore so he pays no taxes what a lovely man. Outside Brexit those that will prosper will be those like Dyson and Bamford who want the UK to remain as the central hub for tax havens. Stop those meddling EU and we can then become a country which helps crooks and anyone with cash keep their wealth. In return the UK will not ask for its tax and starve its citizens of proper public services.

In short its the lesser of the 2 evils which I'm pretty much putting my faith in EU protecting us from being shafted by these shysters.
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You ever managed a post without name calling?

Facist. Shysters. Frauds. Suckers. Little englanders. Crooks. Racists....

Where does it stop? At least you avoided being vile and devisive and certainly hypocritical eh.
 
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New poll just released

#Remain 41%
#Leave 43%
Undecided/Would not vote 16%

Online survey of 2,320 adults.

TNS has changed its methodology for its final poll.

On the old methodology it would have been.

Leave 49
Remain 42

The new approach with a 2 per cent leave lead is based on all voters - the 7 per cent leave lead is based on likely voters.

So on likely voters leave is 7 per cent ahead according to TNS if that makes sense!.?
 
Mike D said:
I am talking about Brexit claiming to be the voice of the people is simply a fraud https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-eu-working-class-culture-hijacked-help-elite

And for the suckers that have taken this in good luck to you. To be perfectly honest if it wasn't important I wouldn't bother and its no wonder Corbyn can't be arsed. The campaign has been vile divisive and its only the fact that Brexit will cost us in the short and long term in the economic and social sense. I despise Cameron and Osborne in so many ways but you keep asking yourself this question what do these folk on the Brexit side want? What's in for them this talk of sovereignty is BS because what they really want is less regulation which means less HR and workers workers rights. Then there's the centre point of this immigration which they know is a lie we are a service lead therefore in simple terms you don't sell your services to immigrants then your economy doesn't grow.

What this is all about is control screwing us and helping them. So great british people like Sir James Dyson who loves his country so much he's taken it abroad and taken his office off shore so he pays no taxes what a lovely man. Outside Brexit those that will prosper will be those like Dyson and Bamford who want the UK to remain as the central hub for tax havens. Stop those meddling EU and we can then become a country which helps crooks and anyone with cash keep their wealth. In return the UK will not ask for its tax and starve its citizens of proper public services.

In short its the lesser of the 2 evils which I'm pretty much putting my faith in EU protecting us from being shafted by these shysters.
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You're someone who considers themself a socialist, yet you stand by side with George Osborne, Goldman Sachs and co.

You should be a prime subject for a case study on cognitive dissonance.
 
AlgarveBlu said:
New poll just released

#Remain 41%
#Leave 43%
Undecided/Would not vote 16%

Online survey of 2,320 adults.

TNS has changed its methodology for its final poll.

On the old methodology it would have been.

Leave 49
Remain 42

The new approach with a 2 per cent leave lead is based on all voters - the 7 per cent leave lead is based on likely voters.

So on likely voters leave is 7 per cent ahead according to TNS if that makes sense!.?
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Thing is most undecided would vote to stay I reckon due to fear.
Leave require at least a 10 point lead in the polls I reckon so have a chance.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Good stuff mate!
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Honestly. I think it's a very tough decision and to be quite frank, I don't think there should have been a referendum.

You only have to read this thread to see that the majority of people arsed enough to post are single issue mouth breathers without the necessary cognitive ability to choose the flavour of window they lick, let alone which way to vote on a highly complex issue.

I'd have been far more vocal in support of IN if it wasn't for some of the nasty vitriol espoused by a number of the more vocal inners (not yourself and not EB despite him being verbose to the extent of visuall tittinus). That and the lack of empathy for any view other than their own. Many have bounced about like a cocker spaniel, spouting myopic bollocks (certainly in the past few days) and calling anyone brave enough to disagree every name under the sun.

But it's nearly over which is a plus. We had a decent 850 pages before the more intellectually challenged joined in. At least we got that far.
 
It gets worse for David Cameron by the minute! Not only has EU president Junker completely shafted him with news that there will be no more EU reform, but now we have this:

Today we found out that the EU is opening new membership talks with Turkey on 30th June.

They timed that well.
 
YPhrunts said:
It gets worse for David Cameron by the minute! Not only has EU president Junker completely shafted him with news that there will be no more EU reform, but now we have this:

Today we found out that the EU is opening new membership talks with Turkey on 30th June.

They timed that well.
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Is this number 35741457896511254621 since 3 October 2005?
 
SWP's back said:
You ever managed a post without name calling?

Facist. Shysters. Frauds. Suckers. Little englanders. Crooks. Racists....

Where does it stop? At least you avoided being vile and devisive and certainly hypocritical eh.
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fuck off baldy ;)

That is nature of this campaign
 
Mike D said:
I am talking about Brexit claiming to be the voice of the people is simply a fraud https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-eu-working-class-culture-hijacked-help-elite

And for the suckers that have taken this in good luck to you. To be perfectly honest if it wasn't important I wouldn't bother and its no wonder Corbyn can't be arsed. The campaign has been vile divisive and its only the fact that Brexit will cost us in the short and long term in the economic and social sense. I despise Cameron and Osborne in so many ways but you keep asking yourself this question what do these folk on the Brexit side want? What's in for them this talk of sovereignty is BS because what they really want is less regulation which means less HR and workers workers rights. Then there's the centre point of this immigration which they know is a lie we are a service lead therefore in simple terms you don't sell your services to immigrants then your economy doesn't grow.

What this is all about is control screwing us and helping them. So great british people like Sir James Dyson who loves his country so much he's taken it abroad and taken his office off shore so he pays no taxes what a lovely man. Outside Brexit those that will prosper will be those like Dyson and Bamford who want the UK to remain as the central hub for tax havens. Stop those meddling EU and we can then become a country which helps crooks and anyone with cash keep their wealth. In return the UK will not ask for its tax and starve its citizens of proper public services.

In short its the lesser of the 2 evils which I'm pretty much putting my faith in EU protecting us from being shafted by these shysters.
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You're missing the key bit about democracy. If you vote leave and any of the above were to happen the British people can kick the government out. It is the British people holding the government to account.

If the EU were to introduce laws and regulations around which we don't agree there is f*ck all you or I could do.

The cat is out if the bag now, Turkey will be allowed to join and this b*ll ox about reforming the EU is exactly what I thought it was, complete b*ll ox from the remain side. We have the best deal we were ever going to get prior to the referendum. You can forget any further reform post a remain vote. The EU have now told us that plain and simple. Democracy hey?

This is not about party politics it's about the future of the country and the right of the British people to control our own destiny. The EU are brazen they think the British people can get dictated to. I very much hope we show the power of the people against the establishment and vote leave.
 
nellyonthewing said:
Stick with Eddie Izzard then mate.
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people have been acting clowns on both sides throughout the campaign, I feel the debate should have been on pros and cons on both sides not narrowed down to a few topics that polarise people, personally whatever people vote it's their decission and we all have to respect that not all people think the same, if honest no one knows which choice will be better in the future and you just have to trust your gut feeling and personal opinion.
but I just found that today the planes over the memorial quite distastefull.

Honestly will be glad it's over as it's not exactly covered anyone or our nation in glory
 
InMyLifetime-BaconChops said:
An interesting point raised by the BBC, and I'm interested in your opinion.

A loss for the "leave" campaign in the Scottish Referendum undeniably led to the surge of the SNP in the last GE. Such a narrow loss for them built up all the support and anger amongst the "leave" side (of which there were a lot of supporters) and I'm not saying this was the only factor, but it was a main one.

Could we see a surge in UKIP if there was a narrow Remain victory? Not to the same extent as the SNP (taking over Parliament), but all Labour supporters, and Conservative supporters that are anti EU, could we see a significant increase in these voters swapping to UKIP. However the one factor that does count against this is that the next GE is 3/4 years away so it might have died down, unlike the GE after the Scottish Referendum was only 1 year after.
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In the event of a narrow Remain win I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see long lasting divisions within the Tory party. They have been there for years re Europe but the Referendum has made it very public and it would now seem that the gloves are well and truly off.
 
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