Gelsons Dad
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Nonsense.
Fact:
Source: http://www.migrationobservatory.ox....Term Migration Flows to and from the UK_0.pdf
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Fact:
Source: http://www.migrationobservatory.ox....Term Migration Flows to and from the UK_0.pdf
Great post. I'm afraid it's lost on them, though. The Brexits have tuned everything out. They are determiined to make their Lickle England even mote lickle. They think it's a referendum about immigration. They're being exploited by the likes of Gove and Johnson and it's a deeply unattractive spectacle. The word Lemmings comes to mind.
Go out tiomorrow and vote for recession.
Still at it Scaremonger vote recession hahahaha
Pam in 2008 were we in the EU?
Dextersmate
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Nice swerve but totally irrelevant.
Fair comment,but we are a mix of allsorts!,and the better for it.
So for nearly 15 years the average net migration is 245,000. You're angry about that?
Gelsons Dad
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So for nearly 15 years the average net migration is 245,000. You're angry about that?
I'm not angry about anything. Just pointing out how rapidly net migration has risen to completely disprove your false assertion.
Yeah know where you,re at. But 2million brits live abroad,some working,some retired,probably a burden on the spanish?.
But we are all on a rock spinning round in space,black,white,or any variation,all cultures will benefit from more integration".
Not at all - the Spanish love having these Brits spending their pensions there. Money earned elsewhere but spent on you is great.
I love other cultures but I think the EU has ruined the unique identity of it's member states.
The BBC fact check and the site Full Fact gave the reason for this. I can't remember exactly what it was.
It didn't mean however there were immigrants uncounted for.
It was more an administration thing.
They suggest that people here temporarily shouldn't be counted. I'd argue that regardless of how long they intend to be here, if they're applying for an NI number then they're here to work and then they will need access to at least transport, power, health and housing.
The official figures are collected by asking people at ports and airports whether they are staying for longer than a year, which seems like a method full of holes.
Dextersmate
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Not sure most of the remainers are after more integration to be honest. Also not sure that some cultures that have almost disappeared would agree that all benefit from it either.
Yes agreed,not in the short term,but in the long term.It will be a benefit to get the best from all.
So this is what's making it seem sane to you to vote for a potential recession, more austerity, job losses and the break up of the UK. Well done to you. What are you going to do when the Brexit opportunists do fuck all about the immigration issue, seeing how fond they are of cheap labour and how keen they are to start a bonfire of regulations and workers rights.
This is irresponsible . This is crazy. People are actually going to vote for what Farage is describing as the UKIP manifesto. I thought this country was better than that. I thought the British people were tolerant to a fault. This is very ugly stuff.
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I'm not angry about anything. Just pointing out how rapidly net migration has risen to completely disprove your false assertion.
It rose rapidly from 1991 but that was 25 years ago.
For the past 15 years it's been steady and in line with other countries.
Barry Conlons wig
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I think you need to speak to the fishermen and ask them how many tons of dead fish are discarded back into the sea from trawler nets every year. Last count was something like 850,000 tons a year. The quota system doesn't work.
forgive me if I'm wrong, but that's over fishing, stick to your fucking quota...simple
Integration? You must be joking surely?
Integration is possible. In fact it's quite easy really.
Dextersmate
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As City stu said " the Spanish love the Brits", can we not "love the Poles?, the Spanish?,the Turks,?.
What does that say about us?.
What does that say about us?.
PragueBlue
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Integration is possible. In fact it's quite easy really.
It's not even what most retainers want though. I suspect if the vote was out or closer integration, it wouldn't even be close.
As City stu said " the Spanish love the Brits", can we not "love the Poles?, the Spanish?,the Turks,?.
What does that say about us?.
We do love them individually. I work with Poles, Italians, Belgians and Australians and they're all great.
My concern on immigration is purely to do with numbers. Brits in Spain aren't making it very difficult for young Spaniards to buy property and they aren't undercutting Spaniards for similar work to drive down wages.
PragueBlue
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As City stu said " the Spanish love the Brits", can we not "love the Poles?, the Spanish?,the Turks,?.
What does that say about us?.
It says we should just love other Europeans?
Seems to me that the remain camp want to have a 2-tier system and treat people from outside Europe differently to those from Europe, while the leave campaign would apply the same conditions to all people, regardless of nationality.
In what sense is that true? I am genuinely interested.Not at all - the Spanish love having these Brits spending their pensions there. Money earned elsewhere but spent on you is great.
I love other cultures but I think the EU has ruined the unique identity of it's member states.
Gelsons Dad
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It rose rapidly from 1991 but that was 25 years ago.
For the past 15 years it's been steady and in line with other countries.
Again nonsense.
Fact:
1995: 76,000
2005: 267, 000
2015: 333, 000
Or if you want to look at a shorter time scale:
2012: 177,000 The start of the latest migration trend.
2013: 209,000
2014: 318,000
2015: 333.000 Approaching peak or outliner year?
The likes of Nigel Farage are not an antidote to that.....oh but wait. I've just seen the latest poll. I think Brexit are out of steam.We do love them individually. I work with Poles, Italians, Belgians and Australians and they're all great.
My concern on immigration is purely to do with numbers. Brits in Spain aren't making it very difficult for young Spaniards to buy property and they aren't undercutting Spaniards for similar work to drive down wages.
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