Exciting new Blue Membership

ChicagoBlue said:
We have some of the most reasonably priced tickets in the country....in ANY division....and we have some expensive ones. People will always spend according to their means, with some pushing the boat out every now and then and some never letting their boat see water.

It has always been that way. I'm sorry if you are not able to afford to see City play on every match day, but that probably means those twats at Porsche are probably out pricing you, and the fish is getting expensive at the local chippy, too!

Supply and demand plus life's priorities mean not everything is affordable or good enough VALUE for everyone. That's REAL life, where hard decisions have to be made.

I think every clubs tickets are too expensive, so being comparitively cheap isnt any great comfort. And I'm probably being naive to hope that the supporters might see some benefit of the new TV windfall.

As for supply and demand, I hope it doesn't get down to that. Maybe I'm naive again, but I don't see replacing a long standing supporter with a new supporter with a lot of cash as necessarily a good thing for the club. That to me screams of supporters being no more than a commodity to be monetised. Who knows, maybe thats the way it is now, but I'm never going to sit back blindly and accept that as a good thing.
 
acton28 said:
We are miles apart from a better priced league and teams.

Ticket prices are in Germany low* (*based on last season).

Bundesliga average price: £10.
Premier League: fans pay upwards of £28.

Season tickets
Bundesliga average: £207
Premier League average: £468 in England.

Cheaper tickets ensure a good core of fans, and fans more likely to spend at the gift shop and form a mass of team colours.

You've confused "average ticket price" with "average cheapest ticket price" - i.e. the mean average cost of all the most budget standing space that Bundesliga has to offer. The actual average ticket price in Bundesliga is more like twice what you put there.
 
Official website faq says the new blue membership is not the waiting list for a season ticket.....
Bought mine because I thought it was.
 
No doubt another £25 to go on the waiting list. In all seriousness that does seem good news but I'll wait and see.
 
Petrovs left peg said:
jma said:
Petrovs left peg said:
You are spot on and to put it bluntly if someone cannot afford to pay for a season ticket then they just have to accept watching it at the pub. I had to give it up whilst i was a student but i accepted the fact that i couldn't afford it.

There has to be a charge for the Blue cards otherwise every fucking rag and tout would have one snapping up tickets and creating something worse than Viagogo.

I know I'm missing something here. Some sort of joke. Because I am sure that you are not trying to justify something with the example of having to make cutbacks when you were a student.

Students - no, or very little, income. Huge debts. Huge costs, relative to income. Basically, a time in life when people can afford fuck all and resort to eating beans on toast for every meal because they are permanently skint.

Are you really using that example as comparable to blokes in full time employment who, despite always having been able to watch City, find themselves more and more priced out. Priced out, not of eating out every night. Not of 5 star holidays. Not of extravagant luxury. But of watching 90 minutes of 11 blokes kicking a football about for the football team that represents their area.

And that's also why Billy's point doesn't stack up. Don't get me wrong, I know blokes who 25 years ago stopped going for a while because they had a new family or whatever, it has always gone on. But people in a similar financial position would not even be anywhere near close to making that decision these days as they have been completely priced out years ago.

So, the argument that "people always have to miss out on stuff if they can't afford it - fact of life" is too simplistic.

If suddenly the price of every carrot in the world was fixed at £300 each, none of us would buy carrots. We wouldn't just think "Oh, well, I can't afford carrots, that's the way of the world".

We would think "This is mental, carrots fixed at £300. The carrot industry is taking the piss. Something is all wrong with the world when people are charging that much for carrots and fleecing carrot addicts for something so run of the mill."

Well, football is pretty run of the mill. Every area has it's team that the people there want to go and watch. Just because the price of football in this country is fixed by the cartel in control and none of them really have the bollocks (or means, in terms of the smaller clubs) to address that, doesn't mean that it is just 'the way of the world' and not scandalous. It doesn't mean that City don't take the piss out of addicted fans in the knowledge that they have them over a barrel. It doesn't mean that their aren't people at the club who sit there most days viewing the fans as a cynical money making commodity and who couldn't care less who is priced out or how the fanbase is affected, as long as the figure on the bottom line goes up.

Football prices, in the country as a whole, but significantly at City in recent years, can't be viewed through the prism of "some people can afford things, some people can't". Firstly, because watching football has never been a luxury until football became overrun by cynical twats in recent years and made it so, purely because they can and it looks good on their CV or pays them a dividend every year. And secondly because the cynical squeeze that is being put on City fans every year, with the price of everything increasing way beyond inflation, year upon year in the middle of economic hardship, and various extra charges for nothing being added at every turn (ticket priority, cup schemes, platinum nonsense, etc) is so out of line with the normal considerations that any other non football business has to work under it is unrecognisable. Simply put, they know they have fans by the bollocks and that they are desperate to stay watching City. They know that there will be plenty of bellends willing to glory hunt and replace a percentage of anyone priced out. And as such, they have become cynical beyond belief when it comes to trying to extract every last penny. What makes it even more distasteful is that fact that the figures involved mean virtually nothing to the club in the long run, so it is actually just done so someone can show that they are uber efficient in doing so.

I used the example of when i was a student as it was a time when i couldn't afford to go (early 90's). It doesn't matter whether you are a student, unemployed, got 12 kids etc etc. the fact is you can't afford to go and you have other priorities in life.

What do you want the club to do - find the poorest fucking fan alive and then cost it around them?? Get in the real world.

And what the fuck have the price of carrots got to do with anything?? Suggest you look up the basic economic principle of supply and demand.

City are heading to the top and unfortunately some will get left behind - I can just imagine the transfer forum when Soriano announces "because we are in the middle of economic hardship we are going to sign free transfers only from the conference as we have a couple of fans who are hard up at the moment"

We have some of the cheapest ticket prices around, the club are investing millions in extending the ground to enable more cheap seats and still we get moaning fuckers like you having a go at them - it really is unbelievable!!!!

Thanks for the economics tutorial. I'll send my degree in the subject back forthwith with a note saying that it is undeserved as someone has confounded me by pointing out the example of them being unable to afford to watch City whilst studying pop music at the University of Bolton.

If you can't figure out what I was pointing out, that's your problem.
 
Falastur said:
acton28 said:
We are miles apart from a better priced league and teams.

Ticket prices are in Germany low* (*based on last season).

Bundesliga average price: £10.
Premier League: fans pay upwards of £28.

Season tickets
Bundesliga average: £207
Premier League average: £468 in England.

Cheaper tickets ensure a good core of fans, and fans more likely to spend at the gift shop and form a mass of team colours.

You've confused "average ticket price" with "average cheapest ticket price" - i.e. the mean average cost of all the most budget standing space that Bundesliga has to offer. The actual average ticket price in Bundesliga is more like twice what you put there.

And it still works out a lot fuckin' cheaper!!
 
sandinista said:
Official website faq says the new blue membership is not the waiting list for a season ticket.....
Bought mine because I thought it was.

that's interesting. will be interesting to see whaty they have lined up
 
teddykgb said:
Here in the good old USA we've got many more sports and I can seldom afford to attend many games.

Another yank. Question for those in Manchester...if you can't afford a season ticket and don't travel to the away games, roughly how many City games do you get to watch on television?

Asking because I am wondering if the above quote is influenced by the difference in how the two culture's consume sport. Teddykgb almost certainly can watch nearly all of the teams he follows on TV for a fraction of the price of season tickets for each sport he follows. Wondering if that is just not possible in the UK.
 
80s Shorts said:
As an example.

We cannot afford season tickets for me and my three kids (and her indoors)

one weekend there is a low key cup match etc etc.

So we have to pay £125 up front to be able to purchase the tickets.


How the fuck is this encouraging any new fans.


No doubt there is a computer model showing that this is the road to more

money and the best way to monitize the support.

pretty sure you'd only need one membership to buy all the tickets. You can. or could, when buying on the web last season
 
jayfx said:
Falastur said:
You've confused "average ticket price" with "average cheapest ticket price" - i.e. the mean average cost of all the most budget standing space that Bundesliga has to offer. The actual average ticket price in Bundesliga is more like twice what you put there.

And it still works out a lot fuckin' cheaper!!

A lot of Blues would love the opportunity to legally stand throughout. I don't think the two major German Clubs making the Champions League Final is also to be sniffed at. Their whole experience is excellent.
 

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