moomba said:
NipHolmes said:
Don't thank Bobby for our trophies in total, the players helped him do it and whilst Bobby had a helping hand the quality of players we have is what helped most.
Everyone involved in our successes fo the past few years deserve thanks.
Of course they do.
Everyone from GK Coach to Physios etc. The problem is many say Bobby won us our first trophies but Bobbys had the easiest ride in the premier league in regards to building a squad to compete. So much praise for him but it wasn't a single handed achievement. IMO we could have won it with numerous managers because the playing staff was so good.
HRH bought quality players, he invested deeply. Mancini would be potless if he hadnt got the players we have now.
Our outcasts like Bellamy and Adebayor are first team starters elsewhere. What other owners allow such players to be out on loan? Under other bosses Bobby would've been told to let bigons be bigons and just try to get the best out of playing staff. This is what I'm on about, Bobby is damn lucky to have such good backers and we are all lucky to support a team owned by such.
Our players are expensive ingredients and Mancini isn't a good enough Chef to get the best dish out of them. If you don't like the dish you apparently don't have an educated enough pallete. Blame the sous chef, blame the cooker. Everything before admitting the dish is too bland.
-- Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:12 pm --
samharris said:
NipHolmes said:
Just scanned through and seen a post saying Bobby is best manager in last 30 years. What a ridiculous statement to back up Bobby. I take it all managers have had the same spending power then? No? Ok wo why fucking compare. Apple's and Oranges.
Absolutely desperate now. People using anything to back up statements no matter how baseless and fault the justification.
Fact of matter is we have regressed since last season. We arent playing to our maximum and forget other players, Bobby is not getting the most out of what we have. Simple as that.
A bad worker blames his tools. Instead of rueing the missed opportunity to sign RVP can he not be thankful for having 4 international strikers on our books.
Don't thank Bobby for our trophies in total, the players helped him do it and whilst Bobby had a helping hand the quality of players we have is what helped most. Avram Grant went to a Champions League final for fuck sakes.
Bobby this, Bobby that. I thank nobody more so than HRH Mansour. I'm sick of Mancini telling us how crap we were. Like he's some saviour. He wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for Mansour. He makes out that he's parted the seas like Moses. No, he guided the best squad in the league to the title. Not exactly dragging Villa to the title is it? Context guys, let's have some perspective and leave sentiment out.
I think you'll find the actual quote was " bob is the most successful manager in 30 years"..
So please explain why it has now changed to " Bob is the 'best' manager for 30 years"..Baconface is a better manager than Bob ,but Bob was more successful last year.. thats the difference with twisting words.
Theres a hell of a difference tbh..
please dont start about money.. do you think Mourinho would ever contemplate managing Wigan or Everton without huge money promises.??
yes or no...is Bob the most successful city manager for the last 30 years..
any answer than yes would be truly and utterly deluded.
you also state that its mainly the players that won us the title not Bob.. so why is it now Bobs fault that we are not as good as last year.. surely its the players fault ?? so why then is it Bob who needs replacing ??
He's the most successful because he's been allowed to be. You're delusional to think otherwise
Bobby and fringe players need replacing. A balanced squad with strikers that compliment one another would be a start. A bit of width too.