Extinction Rebellion

[aguero93:20]

And technological advances to clean up the oceans.

I reckon they'll have to clean themselves over the next few million years. They're after finding plastic deposits at over 2 miles of depth off the Kerry coast recently. Fuck knows how you'd clean that up without doing more harm than good. Same goes for the Fukushima Pacific leak. The most important thing is to stop adding to the damage. Another big thing is bees, they're vital and being killed off rapidly. I've seen one in the last two summers where I used to see hundreds. All you see now are wasps. Far too many insect species being killed off and it puts the entire ecosphere at risk.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Rather than some jumped-up yoghurt knitters angling for a scrap, AKA Extinction Rebellion, I prefer to follow the positive action group, 10:10 Climate Action (https://1010uk.org/about)

 

[hilts]

What methods would you prefer them to deploy?

I think he prefers a Chinese whispers approach. Save the planet pass it on, by the time it gets to me it will be your mums a whore pass it on:-)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I reckon they'll have to clean themselves over the next few million years. They're after finding plastic deposits at over 2 miles of depth off the Kerry coast recently. Fuck knows how you'd clean that up without doing more harm than good. Same goes for the Fukushima Pacific leak. The most important thing is to stop adding to the damage. Another big thing is bees, they're vital and being killed off rapidly. I've seen one in the last two summers where I used to see hundreds. All you see now are wasps. Far too many insect species being killed off and it puts the entire ecosphere at risk.

I think robotics could provide a (very) long term solution to plastics in the oceans.

 

[aguero93:20]

I think robotics could provide a (very) long term solution to plastics in the oceans.

How are you powering them? No solar or wind power down there and hydro generation takes huge infrastructure. Batteries don't perform well under high pressure. Nuclear is unconscionable.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

And technological advances to clean up the oceans.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

How are you powering them? No solar or wind power down there and hydro generation takes huge infrastructure. Batteries don't perform well under high pressure. Nuclear is unconscionable.

The apogee of transport a little over two hundred years ago was boats propelled by sails. If we survive as a species, and Moore's law prevails for a further sustained period, I reckon it more likely than not that a technological solution to plastics in the oceans can be found.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

How are you powering them? No solar or wind power down there and hydro generation takes huge infrastructure. Batteries don't perform well under high pressure. Nuclear is unconscionable.

Tethered solar arrays floating on the surface.

 

[aguero93:20]

Tethered solar arrays floating on the surface.

2 miles deep mate. 2 miles. There aren't enough rare earths on this planet to justify 2 mile long tethers.

 

[aguero93:20]

The apogee of transport a little over two hundred years ago was boats propelled by sails. If we survive as a species, and Moore's law prevails for a further sustained period, I reckon it more likely than not that a technological solution to plastics in the oceans can be found.

That's the problem though. We're outgrowing Moore's Law at a rapid pace.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

2 miles deep mate. 2 miles. There aren't enough rare earths on this planet to justify 2 mile long tethers.

Would certainly work for shallower areas. For deeper areas, maybe some sort of tidal flow generation system?

 

[aguero93:20]

Would certainly work for shallower areas. For deeper areas, maybe some sort of tidal flow generation system?

You don't really get tidal movement that deep. The only thing might be gathering heat energy from geothermal vents but we could be thousands of years away from that level of tech. The shallower areas will come down to the carbon footprint of cleaning the ocean. If we could crack fusion it would solve a lot of issues but that's gone beyond nuclear physics and into materials science and it looks like we're pretty fucking stumped tbf.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

The apogee of transport a little over two hundred years ago was boats propelled by sails. If we survive as a species, and Moore's law prevails for a further sustained period, I reckon it more likely than not that a technological solution to plastics in the oceans can be found.

They’re working on the technology for a soft border in NI first though.
They’ll get to the oceans after. No worries.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

You don't really get tidal movement that deep. The only thing might be gathering heat energy from geothermal vents but we could be thousands of years away from that level of tech. The shallower areas will come down to the carbon footprint of cleaning the ocean. If we could crack fusion it would solve a lot of issues but that's gone beyond nuclear physics and into materials science and it looks like we're pretty fucking stumped tbf.

Fusion is cracked already. I saw it in Back to the Future in 1985.

 

[aguero93:20]

Fusion is cracked already. I saw it in Back to the Future in 1985.

Yeah jokes aside the theory is cracked, even the process is. The issue is that we haven't found an alloy capable of containing the energy released by fusion on any kind of worthwhile scale. It tears through the strongest materials we have so while we can generate the energy, we can't channel it usefully. Most technological advances you can put a timescale on but a material capable of containing fusion? Hydrogen Fusion creates the toughest elements in our universe, it's quite possible that there's no material out there capable of containing and directing large scale fusion as there's no greater power in the universe outside of black holes.

 

[hilts]

They’re working on the technology for a soft border in NI first though.
They’ll get to the oceans after. No worries.

This hard border situation may seem a rather silly sticking point in the future.

 

[1.618034]

Good on them, I say.

Nothing wrong with being justifiably indignant about the self-destruction of our fucking environment!

This issue has to be kept at the top of the political agenda, by hook and/or by crook, because the cynic in me thinks that a lot of the political shenanigans that's going on globally is all part of a distraction campaign from the harsh reality.

People will die for this cause, one way or another. There isn't a bigger one facing the whole planet that I can think of. Something big has to happen to wake people up. Whether that's a huge "natural" catastrophe or a martyrdom, or two, the cause IMO is just.

My daughter is 6 and I don't know how I break it to her that when she's in the prime of her life, there may well be billions of lives lost globally and she might witness the breakdown of civilisation, as we know it, because people like me knew this was coming years ago and were just a bit shit.

Thanks Dad.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

80% is about right, I'd reckon.

With the rags claiming around that proportion of the global population supports them I think the answer is staring us in the face.

 

[aguero93:20]

With the rags claiming around that proportion of the global population supports them I think the answer is staring us in the face.

There's still a debate to be had there in my opinion.

Firing squad v Burnt at the stake.
As an Irishman my choice is made but the firing squad mob should get a chance to put their views forward as well.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

There's still a debate to be had there in my opinion.

Firing squad v Burnt at the stake.
As an Irishman my choice is made but the firing squad mob should get a chance to put their views forward as well.

Waste of ammo. Burn them.