Extinction Rebellion

[BobKowalski]

I believe in the cycle of the earth but It has been speeded up by humans over the last 100 years! Also believe the earth will set it Self right has it has done through its 4.5 billion years.

Read this and the 97% reported is made up just so its harder to refute.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/uhener...97-consensus-on-anthropogenic-climate-change/

Well let’s hope the Earth doesn’t decide it needs to rain constantly for 2 million years or go for for the full glacial option as a means to self right itself as it has done in the past.

 

[Southbanken]

I believe in the cycle of the earth but It has been speeded up by humans over the last 100 years! Also believe the earth will set it Self right has it has done through its 4.5 billion years.

Read this and the 97% reported is made up just so its harder to refute.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/uhener...97-consensus-on-anthropogenic-climate-change/

Ok, read it and it disputes the 97%. Instead it states that most studies including specialties other than climatologists find support in the range of 80% to 90% and others between 90 - 100%. It also states that even although belief is clearly below 97%, support over 80% is strong consensus. You win a semantic point that changes nothing. There remains strong consensus.

 

[BobKowalski]

Sadly i think you are right, see Chippy and Waspish as examples. People don't want to have any interest in considering the impact we are having on our planet as they don't want to change their lifestyles.

Perhaps but improvements have been made in the U.K. if you compare the air we currently breathe to what it was in the recent past or that we now go whole days with deriving no power from coal. The argument about climate change should maybe focus on whether people want to return to inhaling crap into their lungs all day or just condensed into a simple question, ‘why do you want to shit where you eat?’

I don’t. You clearly don’t. I want clean air and a healthy environment so let’s ask.

Why do some people want to shit where they eat?

 

[Southbanken]

Moreover, a sea level rise of 61cm by 2100 - assuming no future interventions to prevent it - can in no way be classified as a "crisis". It is a problem, yes. A manageable problem over an 80 year timeframe. Have shave, take your dungarees off and enough of the melodrama.

Can i ask, how many people being displaced do you see as being a crisis. Where is your line of acceptability in communities being wiped out? What level of death is a "manageable problem" as opposed to a "crisis"?

 

[waspish]

Do you think that the earth will replace the 1000s of lost species, remove metric tonnes of plastic that doesn't biodegrade and replant the thousands upon thousands of acres of trees that we have removed too?

There was extinction before humans.
This country was covered in trees we cut them all down for a reason how arrogant are we to tell another country to stop cutting down trees? Its up to those countries to deal with it.
Evolution over billions of years who knows what will happen?

 

[hilts]

Perhaps but improvements have been made in the U.K. if you compare the air we currently breathe to what it was in the recent past or that we now go whole days with deriving no power from coal. The argument about climate change should maybe focus on whether people want to return to inhaling crap into their lungs all day or just condensed into a simple question, ‘why do you want to shit where you eat?’

I don’t. You clearly don’t. I want clean air and a healthy environment so let’s ask.

Why do some people want to shit where they eat?

I think we all know why some spend a lot of effort diluting the message or claiming we can’t do anything. They like the contents of their wallet and not being put out more than easing suffering of other people and species on the planet. Incredibly there are people so selfish that nothing outside of their materialistic bubble matters to them. I think the technical term is being an utter ****.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Sadly i think you are right, see Chippy and Waspish as examples. People don't want to have any interest in considering the impact we are having on our planet as they don't want to change their lifestyles.

Or maybe just maybe because we don't actually agree with you? Why do you have to cast aspersions like that? I get that you are passionate about this stuff, but you appear to have lost all sense of balance. Claiming predictions as fact, when they are not. And claiming anyone who disagrees has an ulterior motive. It's pretty poor stuff mate, to be honest.

 

[Chippy_boy]

I think we all know why some spend a lot of effort diluting the message or claiming we can’t do anything. They like the contents of their wallet and not being put out more than easing suffering of other people and species on the planet. Incredibly there are people so selfish that nothing outside of their materialistic bubble matters to them. I think the technical term is being an utter ****.

I think the term for someone who posts the above is utter **** as well.

What an absolute load of shite you posted right there mate. Utter shite. I am a former scientist by the way. I graduated in Physics with Atmospheric Physics in 1979 and went on to work at Cern, before changing career paths. I am out of touch and have forgotten most of what I knew, but I have a basic scientific understanding. And IMO there is very significant scope for misinterpretation of both the data and the models, and I am not at all convinced that the median projections are valid, let alone the doomsday ones. Moreover, it is abundantly clear that whatever the UK does is entirely symbolic and will be virtually no difference whatsoever to climate change, whether we cut our carbon output by 1%, by 50% or by 100%. Maybe zero difference.

This being the case, it would seem to me to be eminently sensible to spend more money on things which really do matter to us, like the NHS, like schools, like training for young people, caring for our elderly - rather than piss billions down the pan on something which will make fuck all difference and may very well not even be a problem at all.

For me the jury is entirely out on whether we may in fact in a decade or two finally have to admit that we got it all wrong and that CO2 - least of all anthropogenic CO2 - has got fuck all to do with it.

 

[hilts]

I think the term for someone who posts the above is utter **** as well.

What an absolute load of shite you posted right there mate. Utter shite. I am a former scientist by the way. I graduated in Physics with Atmospheric Physics in 1979 and went on to work at Cern, before changing career paths. I am out of touch and have forgotten most of what I knew, but I have a basic scientific understanding. And IMO there is very significant scope for misinterpretation of both the data and the models, and I am not at all convinced that the median projections are valid, let alone the doomsday ones. Moreover, it is abundantly clear that whatever the UK does is entirely symbolic and will be virtually no difference whatsoever to climate change, whether we cut our carbon output by 1%, by 50% or by 100%. Maybe zero difference.

This being the case, it would seem to me to be eminently sensible to spend more money on things which really do matter to us, like the NHS, like schools, like training for young people, caring for our elderly - rather than piss billions down the pan on something which will make fuck all difference and may very well not even be a problem at all.

For me the jury is entirely out on whether we may in fact in a decade or two finally have to admit that we got it all wrong and that CO2 - least of all anthropogenic CO2 - has got fuck all to do with it.

Your claim to be concerned for the less fortunate in this world was a real laugh out loud moment for me so thanks for that. We do have one thing in common we are both all about the green.

If you stayed in your scientific field you could have told all the others how inept and wrong they are. A missed opportunity for us all.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Your claim to be concerned for the less fortunate in this world was a real laugh out loud moment for me so thanks for that.

You lot just cannot get your heads around the fact that Tories don't believe in Labour's fucked up economics, can you. No, that's unthinkable, there must surely be some ulterior motive. Pathetic, just pathetic.