Virgin were on a shoe string budget so a bit different but yes definitely Jaguar with the backing of Ford.
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Virgin were on a shoe string budget so a bit different but yes definitely Jaguar with the backing of Ford.
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I still dont understand why the lapped cars can be moved out to give the second place car an advantage. Surely the race restarts with everyone holding their places, i just dont get it
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If the ruling said "all" instead of "any", Mercedes would have an ironclad case to take to CAS, because that is how the FIA have wormed out of it. It technically doesn't state that every lapped car must pass the lead car before they can continue racing under a green flag.No wonder Mercedes are appealing then, no way will that hold up, it even says that is after “lapped cars can now overtake” has been sent to all teams.
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Mercedes should just accept the result now, and then take the FIA to court for loss of revenue, they'd most likely win for the way the rules were implimented, and the FIA would probably go out of business (wouldn't be a bad thing in my opinion, as I think something is very wrong there).
If the ruling said "all" instead of "any", Mercedes would have an ironclad case to take to CAS, because that is how the FIA have wormed out of it. It technically doesn't state that every lapped car must pass the lead car before they can continue racing under a green flag.
Red Bull tried this argument but it's bullshit and you know it and the stewards ignored it.
Any lapped cars does equal all lapped cars.
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It used to be that way, or they'd take a note of the time gap then added it on at the end of the race, then they changed it during the Schumacher dominance era, I believe.I still dont understand why the lapped cars can be moved out to give the second place car an advantage. Surely the race restarts with everyone holding their places, i just dont get it
01cravend
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Umm no. Ask Toyota, Honda and BMW how their campaigns in the mid 2000s. You need more than money to be the best in F1.
I didn't say to be the best. You merely need money and you can build a team to compete in F1.
The equivalent would be a billionaire creating Bluemoon FC, building a stadium ect(chassis), build a team then immediately compete in the Premier League.
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but why ? all cars should start as they were before the SCIt used to be that way, or they'd take a note of the time gap then added it on at the end of the race, then they changed it during the Schumacher dominance era, I believe.
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If the ruling said "all" instead of "any", Mercedes would have an ironclad case to take to CAS, because that is how the FIA have wormed out of it. It technically doesn't state that every lapped car must pass the lead car before they can continue racing under a green flag.
I don’t think that as a defence would win either though.
Loads of new F1 fans got a race they probably adored. But the regulars are left stunned by the abysmal decision making.
Lewis had it won. Max and Red Bull were resigned to the fact it was done except for a miracle. But a miracle is certainly not rushing to force a final lap sprint between the two contenders with one on fresher tyres...
It is a clear manipulation of the circumstances to benefit one team. Whilst bias exists in all sports, that was quite ridiculous. That would be like our Aguero moment coming after the ref moved a couple of the QPR players out of the way and played until we scored. It's that hollow.
Has CAS ever had to make a decision on anything like this before in any sport?
Lewis had it won. Max and Red Bull were resigned to the fact it was done except for a miracle. But a miracle is certainly not rushing to force a final lap sprint between the two contenders with one on fresher tyres...
It is a clear manipulation of the circumstances to benefit one team. Whilst bias exists in all sports, that was quite ridiculous. That would be like our Aguero moment coming after the ref moved a couple of the QPR players out of the way and played until we scored. It's that hollow.
Has CAS ever had to make a decision on anything like this before in any sport?