FA Cup Final - Post Game thread

The other team lost a freak game against Spurs. Last year we were pretty lucky in the final.This year we couldn’t break down the rags or Real Madrid at home despite having plenty of control. I’m not trying to knock this side they’ve done incredibly well and have the records to prove it. I just don’t think because one ends up with a European Cup it proves conclusively it’s better than another. Cup comps freak things can happen. You only have to look at the twice Chelsea have won it. Also we never stop hearing about the rags 99 team but their 2008 side was better.
Or Liverpool and Arsenal at home. Teams are coming and parking the bus with 10 behind the ball (in 2 banks of 5) and getting results. We dont have enough of the right type of players to break them down. Doku looks like he’ll be that player on the left. Foden in the middle but we need at least a.n.other imo on the right….
 
Well if you approach it like Hammers fans (including our resident one on here) it will make you “European champions” if you win it.
And you will get to visit little towns that literally you will not have heard of.
Lokeren, with a night out in Ghent, remains one of the great City away days! Game was terrible mind!
 
Yes we have just won 4 in a row but you can't tell me that the standard of our football this last season has matched that of our trophy winning seasons in the last 6 years.

Yet again we've made history but it's been a hard watch at times. You'd have to be blind to see that we've simply not been as effective as we have been in previous seasons. As yesterday and the Arsenal game showed, teams now know that if they stay deep and compact we will struggle.
When teams sit in deep and compact, why don’t we do the same back to them and bamboozle them lol, play these teams at there own game,

Anyway I heard yesterday off someone well connected to the club that pep is definitely going at the end of next season, along with haaland and a few others,

Apparently the club want to do one big shift and change all in one go is what I was told, they want a total reset of the organisation and rather than staff leaving bit by bit, they want to do it in one big movement of staff and players,

I can understand there thinking if this information turns out to be true, most leading companies in the world have a reset every 10 years so that they don’t get complacent and keeps them at the top of the business world as they say.
 
When teams sit in deep and compact, why don’t we do the same back to them and bamboozle them lol, play these teams at there own game,

Anyway I heard yesterday off someone well connected to the club that pep is definitely going at the end of next season, along with haaland and a few others,

Apparently the club want to do one big shift and change all in one go is what I was told, they want a total reset of the organisation and rather than staff leaving bit by bit, they want to do it in one big movement of staff and players,

I can understand there thinking if this information turns out to be true, most leading companies in the world have a reset every 10 years so that they don’t get complacent and keeps them at the top of the business world as they say.
a big risk revolution rather than evolution
 
When teams sit in deep and compact, why don’t we do the same back to them and bamboozle them lol, play these teams at there own game,

Anyway I heard yesterday off someone well connected to the club that pep is definitely going at the end of next season, along with haaland and a few others,

Apparently the club want to do one big shift and change all in one go is what I was told, they want a total reset of the organisation and rather than staff leaving bit by bit, they want to do it in one big movement of staff and players,

I can understand there thinking if this information turns out to be true, most leading companies in the world have a reset every 10 years so that they don’t get complacent and keeps them at the top of the business world as they say.
Ok.
 
When teams sit in deep and compact, why don’t we do the same back to them and bamboozle them lol, play these teams at there own game,

Anyway I heard yesterday off someone well connected to the club that pep is definitely going at the end of next season, along with haaland and a few others,

Apparently the club want to do one big shift and change all in one go is what I was told, they want a total reset of the organisation and rather than staff leaving bit by bit, they want to do it in one big movement of staff and players,

I can understand there thinking if this information turns out to be true, most leading companies in the world have a reset every 10 years so that they don’t get complacent and keeps them at the top of the business world as they say.
Doubt anyone important would tell you such information knowing you’d spread it immediately LOL.
 
But when he saw Ortega coming out, did he have any business heading the ball like that towards his own goal?
Both at fault for me.
Gvardiol was grappling with garnacho and watching a bouncing ball. Was in total control of that situation. But hard for him to see ortega also.


Ortega had a perfect view of Gvardiol in that moment, could see he was in charge and then for some reason decided to put himself in no mans land and cost us a goal. Ortega’s fault. He had no need to do what he did!!
 
When teams sit in deep and compact, why don’t we do the same back to them and bamboozle them lol, play these teams at there own game,

Anyway I heard yesterday off someone well connected to the club that pep is definitely going at the end of next season, along with haaland and a few others,

Apparently the club want to do one big shift and change all in one go is what I was told, they want a total reset of the organisation and rather than staff leaving bit by bit, they want to do it in one big movement of staff and players,

I can understand there thinking if this information turns out to be true, most leading companies in the world have a reset every 10 years so that they don’t get complacent and keeps them at the top of the business world as they say.
Mmmm Pep going at the end of the season you say, Jurgen should have had a good rest by then :-)
 
When teams sit in deep and compact, why don’t we do the same back to them and bamboozle them lol, play these teams at there own game,

Anyway I heard yesterday off someone well connected to the club that pep is definitely going at the end of next season, along with haaland and a few others,

Apparently the club want to do one big shift and change all in one go is what I was told, they want a total reset of the organisation and rather than staff leaving bit by bit, they want to do it in one big movement of staff and players,

I can understand there thinking if this information turns out to be true, most leading companies in the world have a reset every 10 years so that they don’t get complacent and keeps them at the top of the business world as they say.

Because what the very select number of people who know the exact plans of Guardiola’s contract situation will definitely be doing, is blabbing off about it to every geezer they bump into, and trust it won’t go any further.
 
Or Liverpool and Arsenal at home. Teams are coming and parking the bus with 10 behind the ball (in 2 banks of 5) and getting results. We dont have enough of the right type of players to break them down. Doku looks like he’ll be that player on the left. Foden in the middle but we need at least a.n.other imo on the right….
Yeah Bernado has done so well for us but you watch him these days get the ball 40 yards from goal one on one with someone and you just know he’ll do a few jinks before knocking it sideways whilst the other team then getting everyone back in position. As poor as KDB was yesterday i’d have stuck him on the right and took Bernie off. At least it would have helped stretch the pitch more and we all know he whip a cross in
 
Two of our best players this season caused this defeat

Bad pass from Rodri followed by another bad decision from Gvardiol caused the 1st goal


What really bother me is when KDB is off we struggle

Even if he is having bad game , he has the ability to save the team with magical moments
Gvardiol? I get where you’re coming from but for me it’s Ortega. I any ‘ keeper is coming for a ball he needs to be winning it from any player including his own teammates. Unfortunately yesterday was probably Ortega’s worst game between the sticks. Happens though just a pity it was against them.
 
It was Ortega and Gvardiol at fault for that first goal though wasn’t it? For me that was the single most important crucial turning point on the whole game. It gave their players belief and that bit extra energy, desire etc after they had been written off beforehand.

For us, I just think we were going back to the well once too often, and there just wasn’t enough there this time. A match too far.
They were shit though, a spirited20 minute after we gave them a goal.

The defence and Keeper just didn't look in cohesion, the playing about at the back nearly gave them another goal after the fuck up of the first.
 
Yeah Bernado has done so well for us but you watch him these days get the ball 40 yards from goal one on one with someone and you just know he’ll do a few jinks before knocking it sideways whilst the other team then getting everyone back in position. As poor as KDB was yesterday i’d have stuck him on the right and took Bernie off. At least it would have helped stretch the pitch more and we all know he whip a cross in
Yep Bernie was awful and has been poor most of the season. With gaps opening up I defo would have kept on KDB, if anyone is going to conjure up a piece of magic it’s him.
 
Gvardiol? I get where you’re coming from but for me it’s Ortega. I any ‘ keeper is coming for a ball he needs to be winning it from any player including his own teammates. Unfortunately yesterday was probably Ortega’s worst game between the sticks. Happens though just a pity it was against them.
I would split culpability 50/50 for that fuck up. If Gvardiol didn’t know where Ortega was no way should the daft fucker be heading it back into the centre of the goal.
 

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