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KenTheLandlord said:
Is there any other professional footballer on the planet who gets away with more cautions than the ginger pig. I say there isn't. Get looking you useless FA fa fa fools.
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Is there any other professional footballer on the planet who gets away with more cautions than the ginger pig. I say there isn't. Get looking you useless FA fa fa fools.
bluemanc
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The FA shouldn't exist
The message from government is the national team may be riding high, but English football's governing body is not.
"The letter describes the FA's contribution to the recent government request for answers to seven challenges facing the game as disappointing and lacking substance.
In a separate interview with The Guardian newspaper, Sutcliffe added: "There has to be, and there already is, a recognition that the status quo is not good enough.
"(The FA) must use this opportunity to put its house in order. If that doesn't happen the influence of the FA will diminish and football as a sport will suffer."
Yes i know all the political party's are as bad as the FA, but the plan should be to shut them down & start again with the best people in the best jobs.
They are taking the piss out of the goverment so they are going to treat everbody else that critizes them even worse...... "dialogue since 2005"FFS, how can you get expect to get a reaction from control freaks like that.
The message from government is the national team may be riding high, but English football's governing body is not.
"The letter describes the FA's contribution to the recent government request for answers to seven challenges facing the game as disappointing and lacking substance.
In a separate interview with The Guardian newspaper, Sutcliffe added: "There has to be, and there already is, a recognition that the status quo is not good enough.
"(The FA) must use this opportunity to put its house in order. If that doesn't happen the influence of the FA will diminish and football as a sport will suffer."
Yes i know all the political party's are as bad as the FA, but the plan should be to shut them down & start again with the best people in the best jobs.
They are taking the piss out of the goverment so they are going to treat everbody else that critizes them even worse...... "dialogue since 2005"FFS, how can you get expect to get a reaction from control freaks like that.
bluemanc said:The FA shouldn't exist
The message from government is the national team may be riding high, but English football's governing body is not.
"The letter describes the FA's contribution to the recent government request for answers to seven challenges facing the game as disappointing and lacking substance.
In a separate interview with The Guardian newspaper, Sutcliffe added: "There has to be, and there already is, a recognition that the status quo is not good enough.
"(The FA) must use this opportunity to put its house in order. If that doesn't happen the influence of the FA will diminish and football as a sport will suffer."
Yes i know all the political party's are as bad as the FA, but the plan should be to shut them down & start again with the best people in the best jobs.
They are taking the piss out of the goverment so they are going to treat everbody else that critizes them even worse...... "dialogue since 2005"FFS, how can you get expect to get a reaction from control fraks like that.
Does anybody know what the 7 challenges actually are?
bluemanc
Well-Known Member
Reply without lying was the 1st challenge,methinks they've struggled since 2005 with that one.moonbeams said:bluemanc said:The FA shouldn't exist
The message from government is the national team may be riding high, but English football's governing body is not.
"The letter describes the FA's contribution to the recent government request for answers to seven challenges facing the game as disappointing and lacking substance.
In a separate interview with The Guardian newspaper, Sutcliffe added: "There has to be, and there already is, a recognition that the status quo is not good enough.
"(The FA) must use this opportunity to put its house in order. If that doesn't happen the influence of the FA will diminish and football as a sport will suffer."
Yes i know all the political party's are as bad as the FA, but the plan should be to shut them down & start again with the best people in the best jobs.
They are taking the piss out of the goverment so they are going to treat everbody else that critizes them even worse...... "dialogue since 2005"FFS, how can you get expect to get a reaction from control fraks like that.
Does anybody know what the 7 challenges actually are?
Regarding the 7 challenges, I've found this piece from The Guardian, dated 17th October 2008.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/17/premierleague-andyburnham" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008 ... ndyburnham</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/17/premierleague-andyburnham" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008 ... ndyburnham</a>
The government made its long-awaited intervention in the running of English football yesterday when the culture secretary, Andy Burnham, called on the game's authorities to respond to a variety of threats to its long-term future.
Speaking at the Supporters Direct conference in Westminster yesterday, Burnham said that while the Premier League is "the world's most successful domestic sporting competition," it risks becoming too predictable on the field, not developing sufficient homegrown players, and, more broadly, "losing further touch with its traditional supporter base" if it continues on its current path.
Restating his view that "football needs to reassess its relationship with money", he asked the FA as well as the Premier and Football Leagues to consider whether:
· The rules governing finances can be made consistent between the leagues
· There can be greater transparency and scrutiny of clubs' ownership, including the amount of debt used to finance a takeover and whether that debt is "sustainable and in the wider interests of the game"
· The rules which penalise clubs falling into insolvency can be reviewed
· The rule which requires insolvent clubs to pay football debts in full, unlike other debts, should be reviewed
· The fit-and-proper-person test for club directors and 30% shareholders needs to be strengthened
· "Competitive balance" can be promoted, "preventing the game becoming too predictable"
· "Everything possible is being done to bolster the national side" and there is "a case for introducing a specified number of homegrown players" into club sides.
The issues, relating to the ownership and financing of clubs, the financial inequalities which determine playing success and the suggestion of quotas for homegrown players, are hugely controversial, because the Premier League, in particular, is not expected to be keen on any interference with its commercial approach, which has reaped rich rewards for its clubs. Burnham insisted yesterday that the government is right to raise concerns because of football's importance to supporters, the communities in which clubs are based, and the public at large.
"I am inviting the three football authorities to take a co-ordinated and in-depth look at the questions I have laid out and respond with their thoughts in the New Year," he said.
The FA chairman, Lord Triesman, also speaking at the conference, welcomed Burnham's intervention, appealing for the three bodies to work constructively together: "I hope we can have the discussion in a grown up fashion," Triesman said, "and not feel this is simply jostling in some kind of turf war."
Lord Mawhinney, the Football League chairman, agreed, saying: "The secretary of state has listed important questions and we will certainly consider them in a constructive spirit."
The Premier League were more restrained, saying they had not yet received a formal letter from Burnham.
"When we do," a spokesman said, "we will give serious consideration to the issues he raises, discuss them with the Football League and FA where appropriate and respond to the government accordingly."
bluemanc
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moonbeams said:Regarding the 7 challenges, I've found this piece from The Guardian, dated 17th October 2008.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/17/premierleague-andyburnham" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008 ... ndyburnham</a>
The government made its long-awaited intervention in the running of English football yesterday when the culture secretary, Andy Burnham, called on the game's authorities to respond to a variety of threats to its long-term future.
Speaking at the Supporters Direct conference in Westminster yesterday, Burnham said that while the Premier League is "the world's most successful domestic sporting competition," it risks becoming too predictable on the field, not developing sufficient homegrown players, and, more broadly, "losing further touch with its traditional supporter base" if it continues on its current path.
Restating his view that "football needs to reassess its relationship with money", he asked the FA as well as the Premier and Football Leagues to consider whether:
· The rules governing finances can be made consistent between the leagues
· There can be greater transparency and scrutiny of clubs' ownership, including the amount of debt used to finance a takeover and whether that debt is "sustainable and in the wider interests of the game"
· The rules which penalise clubs falling into insolvency can be reviewed
· The rule which requires insolvent clubs to pay football debts in full, unlike other debts, should be reviewed
· The fit-and-proper-person test for club directors and 30% shareholders needs to be strengthened
· "Competitive balance" can be promoted, "preventing the game becoming too predictable"
· "Everything possible is being done to bolster the national side" and there is "a case for introducing a specified number of homegrown players" into club sides.
The issues, relating to the ownership and financing of clubs, the financial inequalities which determine playing success and the suggestion of quotas for homegrown players, are hugely controversial, because the Premier League, in particular, is not expected to be keen on any interference with its commercial approach, which has reaped rich rewards for its clubs. Burnham insisted yesterday that the government is right to raise concerns because of football's importance to supporters, the communities in which clubs are based, and the public at large.
"I am inviting the three football authorities to take a co-ordinated and in-depth look at the questions I have laid out and respond with their thoughts in the New Year," he said.
The FA chairman, Lord Triesman, also speaking at the conference, welcomed Burnham's intervention, appealing for the three bodies to work constructively together: "I hope we can have the discussion in a grown up fashion," Triesman said, "and not feel this is simply jostling in some kind of turf war."
Lord Mawhinney, the Football League chairman, agreed, saying: "The secretary of state has listed important questions and we will certainly consider them in a constructive spirit."
The Premier League were more restrained, saying they had not yet received a formal letter from Burnham.
"When we do," a spokesman said, "we will give serious consideration to the issues he raises, discuss them with the Football League and FA where appropriate and respond to the government accordingly."
Waste of time,get rid of them all, sell the offices & land & start again.I am inviting the three football authorities
MouldensChippy
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Something has happened...................Just got in from the Wigan v Chelsea match, Phil Dowd was the ref, and get this..............he was fair.
Looks like words out after the past couple of weeks.
Looks like words out after the past couple of weeks.
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When Ian Watmore arrives at Soho Square today for his first day as FA chief executive, he will not immediately be packing his bags for Kazakhstan to accompany the England team for Saturday's World Cup qualifier. Instead, he will spend his first week in the job meeting key staff and trying to set out his priorities.
The decision to stay behind is not intended as a snub to England's Kazakh hosts, but can be interpreted as a clear statement of intent that he will not let the glamorous side of the job – the England circus and all the baggage it entails – interfere with the important business of running the FA and re-establishing it as the voice and regulator of English football at all levels.
Here are 10 of the most pressing challenges that Watmore, an Arsenal fan with a reputation as a quietly effective operator with little desire to use the job to project his own ego, will face as Brian Barwick's successor.
1 Burton
Decision time is looming on the National Football Centre in Burton. The FA has spent an estimated £25m buying and developing the land and may need at least another £35m to complete the project. Despite a firm commitment to go ahead, the likely opening has slipped to 2011 from 2010. And there is still a range of dissenting voices about the location and purpose of the centre. Envisaged as a centre of excellence for coaches, sports scientists, nutritionists and more, as well as providing a training base for the England team, Watmore will have to remake a compelling case that ties into a long-term vision for the FA's wider role in youth development.
2 Youth development
A long-running impasse between the professional game and the FA concerning the best way to structure youth development is crying out for Watmore to break the logjam. Amid speculation about his future, the FA's director of football development, Sir Trevor Brooking, had a public war of words with the Football League chairman, Lord Mawhinney, late last year over how youth development should best be funded. The professional game believes that development money is best channelled through them, leaving the FA to "coach the coaches". But FA insiders point out that they also have grassroots football to consider and the infrastructure for the entire amateur game to worry about. Watmore has made the issue one of his top priorities.
3 Wembley
The new national stadium, the final bill for which approached almost £1bn and the legal fallout from which is still rumbling, continues to cast a shadow. Despite widespread praise for the stadium, the pitch continues to create headlines. More seriously, Watmore must oversee the financial viability of the subsidiary that runs the stadium. It is confident the recession will not affect its business plan, which relies heavily on corporate debentures, but it must also negotiate the refinancing of loan repayments that fall due every year until 2016. Watmore also faces the internal challenge of maintaining staff morale as he manages the move of hundreds of staff from their existing West End location to new offices at Wembley. Along with a round of redundancies, the prospect of trading in the restaurants of Soho for the kebab shops of the North Circular has done little for morale.
4 Reforming the FA.
This falls more squarely in his chairman's lap, but their fates will be intertwined. Since the Burns review delivered its conclusions in 2005, progress has been painfully slow. An independent chairman, in the shape of Lord Triesman, is in place and represents some progress. But the overhaul of the FA's structure that the review so urgently highlighted, including widening the membership of the FA Council to better represent the game's stakeholders and introducing non-executive directors to the main board, appears to have ground to a halt. Triesman got the job on a reform ticket but appears now to believe he must tread more carefully. Perhaps he has been waiting for Watmore's arrival to act.
5 Drug testing.
On 1 July new rules requiring a pool of the top 20 footballers in England to make their whereabouts known for an hour of every day are due to be introduced under the new World Anti-Doping Agency code. But an ongoing spat between Fifa and Wada, and criticism from some athletes, has clouded the implementation of the new rules. UK Sport, responsible for administering the tests, is adamant the new rules will be introduced, even if it takes two or three months. The FA has hitherto been more equivocal, and clubs, the players' union and agents are far from convinced. It will fall to Watmore to defuse a potentially volatile situation.
6 Political landscape.
The FA has decided upon, but has yet to deliver, its answers to Andy Burnham's seven questions on the future of the game. While reasonably arguing that it has a far wider base of opinion to consult, the seven-month delay left the organisation looking leaden-footed against the Premier League and the Football League. Triesman found himself frustrated at only being able to follow the consensus of the earlier proposals from the professional game, after the board blocked his more radical ideas; hardly the ideal basis on which to launch a bid to re-establish the FA as the game's authoritative voice. Watmore must also hit the ground running in making his way around the boardrooms of England and the backwaters of the county game in an effort to win a broad base of support. In this, he may be helped by the fact he does not come from a Premier League background, unlike his main rival for the job, the former Arsenal chief executive Keith Edelman. Yet he must also heal the lasting wounds caused by his chairman's attack on the lack of accountability and financial management among top-flight clubs last year. But diplomacy is said to be among his strengths and he has already met the Premier League chief executive, Richard Scudamore.
7 TV rights/commercial deals
Given that he is succeeding a former ITV and BBC head of sport and is just one year into a new four-year broadcast deal, Watmore may have hoped that would be one thing he did not have to worry about. But the uncertainty surrounding Setanta's future and ITV's attempt to "smooth" its payment schedules on their joint £425m deal for the FA Cup and England internationals will give him pause for thought. Whichever way things go for Setanta, the FA is confident that a combination of money already banked and the possibility of reselling the rights will not force it to take a hit. But the real challenge will come when the sale process begins again in two years' time. With little competition in the market, it may be hard to maintain value. Watmore will also want to mull the hardy perennial of how to maintain the profile and allure of the FA Cup in an ever more crowded football calendar.
8 World Cup 2018.
Although the bid for the World Cup is run by a separate company and led by Andy Anson, the FA and the bid vehicle share a chairman in Lord Triesman. Watmore will not be directly involved but the two are umbilically linked and the successes and failures of each will impact on the other, as seen with the furore over the lack of representation for black and ethnic minority groups at the launch. A successful bid would create a feelgood factor that could not help but benefit Watmore's tenure.
9 Discipline/Respect.
The first season of the FA's high-profile Respect campaign has delivered mixed results. How the initial findings are communicated and how the campaign is taken forward will be crucial to re-establishing the FA's image as a body that is able to take a lead on issues that affect all levels of the game.
10 England.
It is one of the delights and the frustrations of the job that Watmore could be an unalloyed success in all of the above and still come under pressure if England fail to deliver on the field. He has some leeway from the fact that he comes into the job with England well placed to qualify for South Africa 2010 and with a manager who is not his appointment but looks every inch the man for the job. Establishing a good working relationship at an early stage with Fabio Capello and his staff will, of course, be crucial.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/.../jun/.../ian-watmore-fa-chief-executive" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/.../jun/.../i ... -executive</a>
A Good article in the Guardian rule 4 reform, sorry my link doesn't work the article is from last June.
The decision to stay behind is not intended as a snub to England's Kazakh hosts, but can be interpreted as a clear statement of intent that he will not let the glamorous side of the job – the England circus and all the baggage it entails – interfere with the important business of running the FA and re-establishing it as the voice and regulator of English football at all levels.
Here are 10 of the most pressing challenges that Watmore, an Arsenal fan with a reputation as a quietly effective operator with little desire to use the job to project his own ego, will face as Brian Barwick's successor.
1 Burton
Decision time is looming on the National Football Centre in Burton. The FA has spent an estimated £25m buying and developing the land and may need at least another £35m to complete the project. Despite a firm commitment to go ahead, the likely opening has slipped to 2011 from 2010. And there is still a range of dissenting voices about the location and purpose of the centre. Envisaged as a centre of excellence for coaches, sports scientists, nutritionists and more, as well as providing a training base for the England team, Watmore will have to remake a compelling case that ties into a long-term vision for the FA's wider role in youth development.
2 Youth development
A long-running impasse between the professional game and the FA concerning the best way to structure youth development is crying out for Watmore to break the logjam. Amid speculation about his future, the FA's director of football development, Sir Trevor Brooking, had a public war of words with the Football League chairman, Lord Mawhinney, late last year over how youth development should best be funded. The professional game believes that development money is best channelled through them, leaving the FA to "coach the coaches". But FA insiders point out that they also have grassroots football to consider and the infrastructure for the entire amateur game to worry about. Watmore has made the issue one of his top priorities.
3 Wembley
The new national stadium, the final bill for which approached almost £1bn and the legal fallout from which is still rumbling, continues to cast a shadow. Despite widespread praise for the stadium, the pitch continues to create headlines. More seriously, Watmore must oversee the financial viability of the subsidiary that runs the stadium. It is confident the recession will not affect its business plan, which relies heavily on corporate debentures, but it must also negotiate the refinancing of loan repayments that fall due every year until 2016. Watmore also faces the internal challenge of maintaining staff morale as he manages the move of hundreds of staff from their existing West End location to new offices at Wembley. Along with a round of redundancies, the prospect of trading in the restaurants of Soho for the kebab shops of the North Circular has done little for morale.
4 Reforming the FA.
This falls more squarely in his chairman's lap, but their fates will be intertwined. Since the Burns review delivered its conclusions in 2005, progress has been painfully slow. An independent chairman, in the shape of Lord Triesman, is in place and represents some progress. But the overhaul of the FA's structure that the review so urgently highlighted, including widening the membership of the FA Council to better represent the game's stakeholders and introducing non-executive directors to the main board, appears to have ground to a halt. Triesman got the job on a reform ticket but appears now to believe he must tread more carefully. Perhaps he has been waiting for Watmore's arrival to act.
5 Drug testing.
On 1 July new rules requiring a pool of the top 20 footballers in England to make their whereabouts known for an hour of every day are due to be introduced under the new World Anti-Doping Agency code. But an ongoing spat between Fifa and Wada, and criticism from some athletes, has clouded the implementation of the new rules. UK Sport, responsible for administering the tests, is adamant the new rules will be introduced, even if it takes two or three months. The FA has hitherto been more equivocal, and clubs, the players' union and agents are far from convinced. It will fall to Watmore to defuse a potentially volatile situation.
6 Political landscape.
The FA has decided upon, but has yet to deliver, its answers to Andy Burnham's seven questions on the future of the game. While reasonably arguing that it has a far wider base of opinion to consult, the seven-month delay left the organisation looking leaden-footed against the Premier League and the Football League. Triesman found himself frustrated at only being able to follow the consensus of the earlier proposals from the professional game, after the board blocked his more radical ideas; hardly the ideal basis on which to launch a bid to re-establish the FA as the game's authoritative voice. Watmore must also hit the ground running in making his way around the boardrooms of England and the backwaters of the county game in an effort to win a broad base of support. In this, he may be helped by the fact he does not come from a Premier League background, unlike his main rival for the job, the former Arsenal chief executive Keith Edelman. Yet he must also heal the lasting wounds caused by his chairman's attack on the lack of accountability and financial management among top-flight clubs last year. But diplomacy is said to be among his strengths and he has already met the Premier League chief executive, Richard Scudamore.
7 TV rights/commercial deals
Given that he is succeeding a former ITV and BBC head of sport and is just one year into a new four-year broadcast deal, Watmore may have hoped that would be one thing he did not have to worry about. But the uncertainty surrounding Setanta's future and ITV's attempt to "smooth" its payment schedules on their joint £425m deal for the FA Cup and England internationals will give him pause for thought. Whichever way things go for Setanta, the FA is confident that a combination of money already banked and the possibility of reselling the rights will not force it to take a hit. But the real challenge will come when the sale process begins again in two years' time. With little competition in the market, it may be hard to maintain value. Watmore will also want to mull the hardy perennial of how to maintain the profile and allure of the FA Cup in an ever more crowded football calendar.
8 World Cup 2018.
Although the bid for the World Cup is run by a separate company and led by Andy Anson, the FA and the bid vehicle share a chairman in Lord Triesman. Watmore will not be directly involved but the two are umbilically linked and the successes and failures of each will impact on the other, as seen with the furore over the lack of representation for black and ethnic minority groups at the launch. A successful bid would create a feelgood factor that could not help but benefit Watmore's tenure.
9 Discipline/Respect.
The first season of the FA's high-profile Respect campaign has delivered mixed results. How the initial findings are communicated and how the campaign is taken forward will be crucial to re-establishing the FA's image as a body that is able to take a lead on issues that affect all levels of the game.
10 England.
It is one of the delights and the frustrations of the job that Watmore could be an unalloyed success in all of the above and still come under pressure if England fail to deliver on the field. He has some leeway from the fact that he comes into the job with England well placed to qualify for South Africa 2010 and with a manager who is not his appointment but looks every inch the man for the job. Establishing a good working relationship at an early stage with Fabio Capello and his staff will, of course, be crucial.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/.../jun/.../ian-watmore-fa-chief-executive" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/.../jun/.../i ... -executive</a>
A Good article in the Guardian rule 4 reform, sorry my link doesn't work the article is from last June.
bluemanc
Well-Known Member
Quote from above post,that kills off any possiible credibility or respect for the FA on any matter.When Ian Watmore arrives at Soho Square today for his first day as FA chief executive
weeo,giggs & shrek are STILL allowed to abuse the refs when ever they see fit,giggs has been doing it for 10 fuckin yrs.The first season of the FA's high-profile Respect campaign has delivered mixed results.
Did you see the clips of Van Persy after he said he exagerates his falls to win penalties.
Now, this isnt a pop at Utd this time as both of these were 100% no penalties. But he dived:
1) Home to Stoke. No contact at all . Result= Penalty
2) Away to Utd. Very little contanct. Result= No Penalty.
refs do seem to award stuff against the so called lesser teams alot easier (no offense to Stoke)
And that Moulouda tackle yesterday on Melchiot, Ouch but no booking.
Now, this isnt a pop at Utd this time as both of these were 100% no penalties. But he dived:
1) Home to Stoke. No contact at all . Result= Penalty
2) Away to Utd. Very little contanct. Result= No Penalty.
refs do seem to award stuff against the so called lesser teams alot easier (no offense to Stoke)
And that Moulouda tackle yesterday on Melchiot, Ouch but no booking.