Fabregas

Sky are just trying their hardest to keep the story alive by using vague things that are impossible to prove or disprove. That's why he's "considering", beause noone can prove he isn't. I don't think Barca or Cesc could have been much more definitive and clear in their rejection, but Sky and United both have ulterior motives to try and keep the story alive as long as possible
 
Jack the United fan said:
AntiUnited said:
Jack the United fan said:
I never slated Kuyt, I knew he played as a winger with a high workrate, whereas some people who just love to hate scousers would rather be blind to what they see and hate nonetheless.

Basically Welbeck is doing this until he develops fully.

-- Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:39 pm --

But anyway, apologies for de-railing the thread. Back to Cesc?


na didn't mean that at u. just the general united fans. your cool XD

:D Cheers

Back on topic, Cesc is apparently considering his future.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8837093/cesc-fabregas-considering-barcelona-future-after-manchester-united-bid-say-sky-sources" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... ky-sources</a>

Does this mean Barca have given the green light?
No, it means Sky like the rest of the media might as well work for Man Utd's PR machine
 
BigOscar said:
Sky are just trying their hardest to keep the story alive by using vague things that are impossible to prove or disprove. That's why he's "considering", beause noone can prove he isn't. I don't think Barca or Cesc could have been much more definitive and clear in their rejection, but Sky and United both have ulterior motives to try and keep the story alive as long as possible

Seems to be that way, It's just that there's no way of knowing whether they do genuinely want us to bugger off or are just playing hard to get. Every club has their price. Remember Sir Alex saying he wouldn't sell Madrid a virus, 12 months before sanctioning Ronaldo's transfer?
 
Jack the United fan said:
BigOscar said:
Sky are just trying their hardest to keep the story alive by using vague things that are impossible to prove or disprove. That's why he's "considering", beause noone can prove he isn't. I don't think Barca or Cesc could have been much more definitive and clear in their rejection, but Sky and United both have ulterior motives to try and keep the story alive as long as possible

Seems to be that way, It's just that there's no way of knowing whether they do genuinely want us to bugger off or are just playing hard to get. Every club has their price. Remember Sir Alex saying he wouldn't sell Madrid a virus, 12 months before sanctioning Ronaldo's transfer?
But in this case FCB have just sold Thiago and Xavi is 33. There's also the 1st option that Arsenal have and I think they get 25% of the fee. Could be wrong about the last bit.

I don't see them selling at any price

I'm sure Utd will buy 2-3 players, but they'll miss the pre-season with their team mates and that is important. Sounds from what Cabaye has said that there's already a deal in place to take Cabaye to Utd if they want to do that.

I think Utd need a left back too. Evra is getting old and Buttner doesn't look good enough.
 
Rags losing it big time on Rag world

ciderman9000000 said: ↑
Personally, if we don't get Fabregas, I'd be disgusted and embarrassed and would certainly find it difficult to raise any support for the club for at least the coming season. I'm hoping it won't come to this though as the thought of us having bids for players rejected sickens me; I'd be forced to take a long hard look at my emotional ties with the club and decide once and for all whether or not it's worth bothering with football any longer - and to be honest the conclusion I believe I'd likely arrive at is one that would malign me with a depth of sadness, disappointment and an overriding feeling of betrayal which I'm not sure I'd be able to withstand from the viewpoint of my mental health. Bidding for Fabregas is so unprofessional, so undignified and uncouth that serious questions would have to be asked of United's management team and board of executives; and I for one would expect such questions to not just be posed internally, or from the FA or UEFA, but eventually an enquiry from the house of commons I should hope would be forthcoming. I just don't think David Moyes understands the gravity of his position; he certainly does not understand the gravity of his words. Our preseason tour press conferences are being made an absolute mockery of and the situation would seem as being entirely irreparable, there's just no way back from this if Barcelona don't accept our latest bid for Cesc Fabregas. I blame myself in a way; the warning signs were all there from the Thiago fiasco; I should have turned my back then and disassociated myself from the sport immediately - I didn't though, and I've only myself to blame for that. I'm dirty now, tainted with the blood and ink of this atrocity, and that's something I'm just going to have to learn to live with. Whether I can do that remains to be seen. I don't want to be thinking about more final solutions, but I worry that sooner or later I'm going to have to come to terms with the fact that perhaps it isn't going to be possible for me to carry on in this suddenly so blackened world.


Bwahhahahahahahahahahahahahah. :-)
 
BigOscar said:
Sky are just trying their hardest to keep the story alive by using vague things that are impossible to prove or disprove. That's why he's "considering", beause noone can prove he isn't. I don't think Barca or Cesc could have been much more definitive and clear in their rejection, but Sky and United both have ulterior motives to try and keep the story alive as long as possible

I agree. If you really read what they printed it's pure speculation. "Barcelona may consider a £35million offer, " but they didn't say United made a 35m offer or was even willing to. Like saying City would consider 100m offer Silva.
 
Jack the United fan said:
BigOscar said:
Sky are just trying their hardest to keep the story alive by using vague things that are impossible to prove or disprove. That's why he's "considering", beause noone can prove he isn't. I don't think Barca or Cesc could have been much more definitive and clear in their rejection, but Sky and United both have ulterior motives to try and keep the story alive as long as possible

Seems to be that way, It's just that there's no way of knowing whether they do genuinely want us to bugger off or are just playing hard to get. Every club has their price. Remember Sir Alex saying he wouldn't sell Madrid a virus, 12 months before sanctioning Ronaldo's transfer?




I thought your highly moralistic manager would have done the decent thing after being told to fuck off !! After all he slated us and caused no end of bad blood between ourselves and Everton over the Lescott transfer and called our behaviour disgusting !! Now he has a couple of shiny pennies to spend it seems his morals have been corrupted and is acting like a chav millionaire trying to buy things which are out of his class and doing it with the panache of a dustbin collector !! What happened to doing our business in private ?? he has briefed the press more times than Max Clifford. I hate the Scottish cnut and hope the dour dreary hypocrite fall flat on his piss soaked face !!
 
Marvin said:
Jack the United fan said:
BigOscar said:
Sky are just trying their hardest to keep the story alive by using vague things that are impossible to prove or disprove. That's why he's "considering", beause noone can prove he isn't. I don't think Barca or Cesc could have been much more definitive and clear in their rejection, but Sky and United both have ulterior motives to try and keep the story alive as long as possible

Seems to be that way, It's just that there's no way of knowing whether they do genuinely want us to bugger off or are just playing hard to get. Every club has their price. Remember Sir Alex saying he wouldn't sell Madrid a virus, 12 months before sanctioning Ronaldo's transfer?
But in this case FCB have just sold Thiago and Xavi is 33. There's also the 1st option that Arsenal have and I think they get 25% of the fee. Could be wrong about the last bit.

I don't see them selling at any price

I'm sure Utd will buy 2-3 players, but they'll miss the pre-season with their team mates and that is important. Sounds from what Cabaye has said that there's already a deal in place to take Cabaye to Utd if they want to do that.

I think Utd need a left back too. Evra is getting old and Buttner doesn't look good enough.

Say they sell him, that leaves Busquets, Song and Xavi. Don't really want to include Iniesta as he's not a CM. I suppose they could move Mascherano back there but they are in the market for a CB as it is. It would have to be one hell of an offer.<br /><br />-- Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:14 pm --<br /><br />
Rammyblues said:
Rags losing it big time on Rag world

ciderman9000000 said: ↑
Personally, if we don't get Fabregas, I'd be disgusted and embarrassed and would certainly find it difficult to raise any support for the club for at least the coming season. I'm hoping it won't come to this though as the thought of us having bids for players rejected sickens me; I'd be forced to take a long hard look at my emotional ties with the club and decide once and for all whether or not it's worth bothering with football any longer - and to be honest the conclusion I believe I'd likely arrive at is one that would malign me with a depth of sadness, disappointment and an overriding feeling of betrayal which I'm not sure I'd be able to withstand from the viewpoint of my mental health. Bidding for Fabregas is so unprofessional, so undignified and uncouth that serious questions would have to be asked of United's management team and board of executives; and I for one would expect such questions to not just be posed internally, or from the FA or UEFA, but eventually an enquiry from the house of commons I should hope would be forthcoming. I just don't think David Moyes understands the gravity of his position; he certainly does not understand the gravity of his words. Our preseason tour press conferences are being made an absolute mockery of and the situation would seem as being entirely irreparable, there's just no way back from this if Barcelona don't accept our latest bid for Cesc Fabregas. I blame myself in a way; the warning signs were all there from the Thiago fiasco; I should have turned my back then and disassociated myself from the sport immediately - I didn't though, and I've only myself to blame for that. I'm dirty now, tainted with the blood and ink of this atrocity, and that's something I'm just going to have to learn to live with. Whether I can do that remains to be seen. I don't want to be thinking about more final solutions, but I worry that sooner or later I'm going to have to come to terms with the fact that perhaps it isn't going to be possible for me to carry on in this suddenly so blackened world.


Bwahhahahahahahahahahahahahah. :-)


I wouldn't take much notice of him. He likes to WUM like mad when he gets bored.
 
Rammyblues said:
Rags losing it big time on Rag world

ciderman9000000 said: ↑
Personally, if we don't get Fabregas, I'd be disgusted and embarrassed and would certainly find it difficult to raise any support for the club for at least the coming season. I'm hoping it won't come to this though as the thought of us having bids for players rejected sickens me; I'd be forced to take a long hard look at my emotional ties with the club and decide once and for all whether or not it's worth bothering with football any longer - and to be honest the conclusion I believe I'd likely arrive at is one that would malign me with a depth of sadness, disappointment and an overriding feeling of betrayal which I'm not sure I'd be able to withstand from the viewpoint of my mental health. Bidding for Fabregas is so unprofessional, so undignified and uncouth that serious questions would have to be asked of United's management team and board of executives; and I for one would expect such questions to not just be posed internally, or from the FA or UEFA, but eventually an enquiry from the house of commons I should hope would be forthcoming. I just don't think David Moyes understands the gravity of his position; he certainly does not understand the gravity of his words. Our preseason tour press conferences are being made an absolute mockery of and the situation would seem as being entirely irreparable, there's just no way back from this if Barcelona don't accept our latest bid for Cesc Fabregas. I blame myself in a way; the warning signs were all there from the Thiago fiasco; I should have turned my back then and disassociated myself from the sport immediately - I didn't though, and I've only myself to blame for that. I'm dirty now, tainted with the blood and ink of this atrocity, and that's something I'm just going to have to learn to live with. Whether I can do that remains to be seen. I don't want to be thinking about more final solutions, but I worry that sooner or later I'm going to have to come to terms with the fact that perhaps it isn't going to be possible for me to carry on in this suddenly so blackened world.


Bwahhahahahahahahahahahahahah. :-)


This season is going to bring tears of joy to all of us
 

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