Fairytale of New York

[mindmyp's_n_q's]

Watch till the end.

 

[7evens]

The fact he’s had to go to such lengths to ‘explain’ what is blatantly obvious says everything about how snowflake this country has become.

You say "how snowflake this country has become" as if this argument hasn't reared its head every Christmas for twenty years. This isn't a new debate and it never has been.

My two-pence, for what it's worth: I think it's important to accept that art from a previous era won't always meet the social standards of modern society, and asking for a song to be banned is unreasonable. One line in the second verse of 'Fairytale of New York' containing gendered and homophobic slurs doesn't mean the song is evil or terrible or doesn't deserve to be played. It's a beautiful, tragic song that deserves its place as a timeless classic that's wheeled out on an annual basis and a couple of outdated terms don't justify wiping it from existence.

But the problem in this debate has always been some folks' inability to understand the difference between censoring something and outright banning it. Censoring two words in the second verse of a song when it's played on radios and in shopping malls because they're no longer suitable to be publicly broadcast is a reasonable request and isn't akin to enforcing groupthink. If you want to listen to the full, uncensored version of the song then purchase a Christmas CD and blast it at full volume at home/in your car. Nobody can stop you and nobody should.

This isn't an attack on language, it's just a part of the debate some people should probably consider before they drunkenly shout homophobic slurs at the office Christmas party to impress their drunk mates. Nobody wants the song banned, they just want less than 1% of it muted when it's played in public. There really is nothing else to it.

 

[Fame Monster]

If we’re banning Christmas songs, I’d start off with ‘Driving Home for Christmas’...a song completely unacceptable in this era, written by an abusive, violent, and estranged father who’s recently discovered the address of his ex-wife.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Won't be any fuckin' songs left at this rate.

 

[Stoned Rose]

You say "how snowflake this country has become" as if this argument hasn't reared its head every Christmas for twenty years. This isn't a new debate and it never has been.

My two-pence, for what it's worth: I think it's important to accept that art from a previous era won't always meet the social standards of modern society, and asking for a song to be banned is unreasonable. One line in the second verse of 'Fairytale of New York' containing gendered and homophobic slurs doesn't mean the song is evil or terrible or doesn't deserve to be played. It's a beautiful, tragic song that deserves its place as a timeless classic that's wheeled out on an annual basis and a couple of outdated terms don't justify wiping it from existence.

But the problem in this debate has always been some folks' inability to understand the difference between censoring something and outright banning it. Censoring two words in the second verse of a song when it's played on radios and in shopping malls because they're no longer suitable to be publicly broadcast is a reasonable request and isn't akin to enforcing groupthink. If you want to listen to the full, uncensored version of the song then purchase a Christmas CD and blast it at full volume at home/in your car. Nobody can stop you and nobody should.

This isn't an attack on language, it's just a part of the debate some people should probably consider before they drunkenly shout homophobic slurs at the office Christmas party to impress their drunk mates. Nobody wants the song banned, they just want less than 1% of it muted when it's played in public. There really is nothing else to it.

Fucking cool story that bro.

 

[Stoned Rose]

I just read they’re cslling for Father Christmas to be gender neutral. Person Christmas.

I’m glad I’ll be dead in the next 40 years, by which time I’m sure even being dead will have become offensive.

Fucking snowflakes.

Eventually, being human will be seen as offensive to animals the way it’s going.

The fact ‘they’ are arguing this over something that doesn’t even exist is mind boggling.

Who are ‘they’ btw?

 

[roypaulknewmyfather]

If we’re banning Christmas songs, I’d start off with ‘Driving Home for Christmas’...a song completely unacceptable in this era, written by an abusive, violent, and estranged father who’s recently discovered the address of his ex-wife.

And the singer is from Middlesbrough

 

[aguero93:20]

Eventually, being human will be seen as offensive to animals the way it’s going.

They've already started this with this be PC to gingers shite.

 

[JASR]

I'm sure Lee Dixon had to apologise because some yanks got upset when he called a cigarette a fag the other week

Was it, ‘I’m back, just popped out for a fag’

 

[SWP's back]

Quality tune