Ferdinand Charged

AustinBlue said:
But the term "choc ice" is used all the time by Manchester United players to mean fake. It has no racial implications. Yes, it's clearly about a brown chocolate coating on white ice cream, but that doesn't mean it is a racial thing. I'm sure Evra will jump to his defense any minute.
Very much this.

Ferdinand's only crime is being a stupid fucking idiot.
 
MCFC BOB said:
AustinBlue said:
But the term "choc ice" is used all the time by Manchester United players to mean fake. It has no racial implications. Yes, it's clearly about a brown chocolate coating on white ice cream, but that doesn't mean it is a racial thing. I'm sure Evra will jump to his defense any minute.
Very much this.

Ferdinand's only crime is being a stupid fucking idiot.
And throwing around clear racial slurs like a playground bully.
 
Dubai Blue said:
MCFC BOB said:
AustinBlue said:
But the term "choc ice" is used all the time by Manchester United players to mean fake. It has no racial implications. Yes, it's clearly about a brown chocolate coating on white ice cream, but that doesn't mean it is a racial thing. I'm sure Evra will jump to his defense any minute.
Very much this.

Ferdinand's only crime is being a stupid fucking idiot.
And throwing around clear racial slurs like a playground bully.

Don't forget the fashion crimes.

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Dubai Blue said:
MCFC BOB said:
AustinBlue said:
But the term "choc ice" is used all the time by Manchester United players to mean fake. It has no racial implications. Yes, it's clearly about a brown chocolate coating on white ice cream, but that doesn't mean it is a racial thing. I'm sure Evra will jump to his defense any minute.
Very much this.

Ferdinand's only crime is being a stupid fucking idiot.
And throwing around clear racial slurs like a playground bully.

This thought pattern is the one I find most intriguing. Most people of mixed heritage will tell you what race they consider themselves 'more of'(although this is declining in recent times). Clearly Ferdinand is of the 'old school' of thought where he deems his leanings to be Black as that is how he feels he is treated whilst raised. Cole may not see himself as Black regardless of his experiences positive or negative.

So, here is the question; by definition one who is of the same colour cannot be racial to another of that colour, but be PREJUDICED(that is the correct definition). However, if Cole does not consider himself Black as he is of mixed heritage, does this become a racial matter??
 
Bigga said:
So, here is the question; by definition one who is of the same colour cannot be racial to another of that colour, but be PREJUDICED(that is the correct definition). However, if Cole does not consider himself Black as he is of mixed heritage, does this become a racial matter??

What is Ferdinand trying to imply by his statement though?

In saying that someone is black on the outside but behaves like he is white, you are implying that all white men act the same. It could be construed that in this case when calling someone a "choc-ice" you are implying that white men will always side with another white man on the basis of skin colour. Not only is this clearly bollocks but it's also clearly racist.
 
dannybcity said:
Bigga said:
So, here is the question; by definition one who is of the same colour cannot be racial to another of that colour, but be PREJUDICED(that is the correct definition). However, if Cole does not consider himself Black as he is of mixed heritage, does this become a racial matter??

What is Ferdinand trying to imply by his statement though?

In saying that someone is black on the outside but behaves like he is white, you are implying that all white men act the same. It could be construed that in this case when calling someone a "choc-ice" you are implying that white men will always side with another white man on the basis of skin colour. Not only is this clearly bollocks but it's also clearly racist.

Putting aside the fact that he didn't actually tweet the words himself directly, you have to consider the argument that the 'context' you're choosing to work off is pretty far from where Ferdinand started. I think he's asking why he's supporting a 'racist' by 'not getting involved' or 'pretending he heard nothing'.

I think, in my opinion, it's no more than that.
 

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