Fergie's a c*ck but has a point here

[SWP's back]

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Ferguson, speaking on The Football Show on Sirius XM, was asked how he managed to keep players happy while maintaining his rotation policy – he has not named the same side in successive matches since the final week of the 2008-09 season. At City, there have been several outbursts through the media from fringe players, the latest Micah Richards's saying last week he was contemplating leaving.

"Several things come into it, but first of all the players have to understand that, at Manchester United, we have to use our squad," Ferguson said. "I'll always explain to a player I have left out exactly what I am trying to do and the reason for not including him in a particular game.

"In general, it appears to pay off, in terms of respect for the player and giving him his head. If he has his own opinion, great, I am happy to talk it through with him and they always know they may be playing next week and somebody else will have to sit it out.

"If we win things, then it shows the way we have gone about things is correct. If we are winning the Premier League, European Cup or FA Cup, then we know we have done the right thing."

As much as I hate him, the one thing he ensures, is that no player snipes to the press about being rotated. That is the one facet of his management that I would like over here.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Ferguson said. "I'll always explain to a player I have left out exactly what I am trying to do and the reason for not including him in a particular game.

"In general, it appears to pay off, in terms of respect for the player and giving him his head. If he has his own opinion, great, I am happy to talk it through with him and they always know they may be playing next week and somebody else will have to sit it out.

That's the key point here for me and something I've banged on about a lot.

Communication and motivation of the playing staff.

 

[SWP's back]

Ferguson said. "I'll always explain to a player I have left out exactly what I am trying to do and the reason for not including him in a particular game.

"In general, it appears to pay off, in terms of respect for the player and giving him his head. If he has his own opinion, great, I am happy to talk it through with him and they always know they may be playing next week and somebody else will have to sit it out.

That's the key point here for me and something I've banged on about a lot.

Communication and motivation of the playing staff.

I am a Mancini fan as you know but I agree thoroughly Dave. If Sir Twat End can take the time to explain then I see no reason why Mancini can't.

Though the one caveat I have in this instance is that Micah said that he had spoken with Mancini, but still had a little snipe.

This thread wasn't having a go at any players or Mancini, but maybe praising what goes on across the way in Trafford.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Totally agree, SWP. Simple and effective people management is as applicable in football as business, I think.

I've had reservations about this at City if I'm honest. I remember Shay Given giving an interview where he was asked about whether he would figure in the UEFA Cup games and he just said "I don't know".

I'm hoping things have improved on that side because it was an issue last season. Don't want to open up a can of worms over this because I've seen nothing recently to suggest that it is a problem any more.

The Micah interview wasn't a problem for me, and he did say they'd talked.

 

[MouldensChippy]

Ferguson said. "I'll always explain to a player I have left out exactly what I am trying to do and the reason for not including him in a particular game.

"In general, it appears to pay off, in terms of respect for the player and giving him his head. If he has his own opinion, great, I am happy to talk it through with him and they always know they may be playing next week and somebody else will have to sit it out.

That's the key point here for me and something I've banged on about a lot.

Communication and motivation of the playing staff.

I wouldn't call flying teacups and boots 'talking it through, it's just the same bullying approach he takes to everything, I'd hazard to guess.

Worked well on Carlos, didn't it ! :-)

 

[WNRH]

The difference between Ferguson and Mancini is that Ferguson has brought in every single player currently on United's books. When Mancini gets rid of the bad average eggs then there will be no more moaning in the press.

The ones who are doing the moaning about not playing are not good enough, simple as that.

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

So he softens the blow by giving head ? I can't see Bobby going for that

 

[Mancio]

That's the key point here for me and something I've banged on about a lot.

Communication and motivation of the playing staff.

I am a Mancini fan as you know but I agree thoroughly Dave. If Sir Twat End can take the time to explain then I see no reason why Mancini can't.

Though the one caveat I have in this instance is that Micah said that he had spoken with Mancini, but still had a little snipe.

This thread wasn't having a go at any players or Mancini, but maybe praising what goes on across the way in Trafford.

do you believe what baconface say ?

i dont believe any word any manager say. their job is not to be sincere and honest , particularly with press and media.

 

[Clubber]

To be honest, when have you ever heard of interviews with anyone who isn't a first team regular at united? Also united have had a settle team/squad for many season, with each player knowing their role and position in the squad set up (ie Rooney, Rio, Giggs and Scholes are main men in the camp, and they have a bigger say than say Carrick and Da Silva). We still require this, as many are still finding what the 'Team' structure is.

Anderson had a little whinge some time back when he wasn't getting in the team, yet these are blown over and forgotten about.

As we have just recently hit the big time, any player at city is given a mouth piece to air their views at the moment, as we are the big new thing. Give a year, and both the squad and the media will have settled and you will hardly hear a peep out of anyone reguarding 'frustrated' players.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Ferguson said. "I'll always explain to a player I have left out exactly what I am trying to do and the reason for not including him in a particular game.

"In general, it appears to pay off, in terms of respect for the player and giving him his head. If he has his own opinion, great, I am happy to talk it through with him and they always know they may be playing next week and somebody else will have to sit it out.

That's the key point here for me and something I've banged on about a lot.

Communication and motivation of the playing staff.

I agree Dave. However much we might loathe ferguson, he is one of the best managers on the planet (vomits slightly in mouth) and therefore we can assume that his man management skills are pretty good. He has had decades to perfect things though whereas Mancini is a pretty young manager and will improve in time. Also worth bearing in mind the context in which both managers are working. We have very quickly assembled a squad of expensive players who to an extent will not have a huge affinity to the club. They have players who have been there for years and when they buy they are just adding players to a squad that understands and respects the club they have spent years at. Also, united have won everything in the last decade, we have won nothing. Maybe when we have won a few championships and champions leagues, players will feel more able to sit on the bench for the odd match without kicking off. I am pretty confident that the player dessent we have seen in the last year or two will continue to reduce over the next year, for various reasons.