I was thinking more of someone involved in the running of the club, rather than one of his successors. Ferguson was the last of the managers who ran the whole football club from top to bottom. At least at the top level. Now they are all just first team coaches.
It was just a great rags to riches story to trot out during the glory years but Watkins would have looked a right muppet, if he'd ever admitted they were about to sack Ferguson.Based on a conversation I had with Maurice Watkins a few years back, no he wasn’t.
It used to be 13 in 20.When rags say beat 13 Prem in 30 years, I just say 6 in 10 years do tge sums
I may have got this wrong (because I'm sure as hell not going to read one of his me-me-me books) but I have always understood that, as far as actual coaching was concerned, he had very little to with it.
Brian Clough.Greatest British Manager. His legacy is secure: umpteen league titles, European Cup winner and smashed the Glasgow duopoly in Scotland. Loud mouthed bully? Yep. But I’d have loved half the trophies he won to be resting in our cabinet.
We still have time to win half the trophies he won ..
And he’s still there appearing at showdown meetings with CR7 and Ten Minutes we are told when CR7 went on Strike (for that is what it was)We have something to thank him for.
Yes, he put us through misery for 25 years while winning everything ... but he also ran Utd down toward the end, didn't prepare any kind of succession, recommended Moyes, got irrationally bitter toward City during our resurgence, hangs around in the background scowling at successive managers' failings, etc.
Through his ego & arrogance, he's partly responsible for where Utd find themselves now.
And he’s still the biggest **** to have crossed the border.
Peter Tobin runs him close tbf.
Not exactly an all year round vocation. No wonder he had so much time on his hands.Fred West was an ice cream man in Glasgow at one time.
Had they lost that game that attmosphere to get him out would have been at fever pitch ............ ok the owners saying it years after they won the cup ............... that 89/90 season they on the whole where poor and I doubt he would have seen it out had they lost ............I went to the game against Sheff Wed 0-0 maybe the week after the 5-1 and let’s say the attmosphere was toxic so an early cup exit would have rammed it up big time............Based on a conversation I had with Maurice Watkins a few years back, no he wasn’t.
Ferguson - ****Just read an article in the Sunday Times about this guy. Foul mouthed bully doesn't begin to describe this obnoxious man. He managed players who in his day had no power...nowadays he wouldn't last ten seconds in a dressing room full of money rich individuals and their agents. Hope he's enjoying his legacy.
Great manager. Nowhere near the GPC though. As said before, Ferguson not only obliterates every English manager (Clough included) on top flight and European trophies, he also broke the Celtic /Rangers duopoly and that shows he was an absolutely top drawer manager. He’s a very very strong claim for greatest ever. Unless there is someone out there who has a comparable 2 team (or more haul).Brian Clough.
Fred West was an ice cream man in Glasgow at one time.
Who knows mate. Only repeated what I was told and I felt he had no reason to lie to me, and I brought the subject up, but people’s recollection of events can often become warped as event develop one way or the other. And people lie for all sorts of reasons tbf, even those that aren’t apparent.Had they lost that game that attmosphere to get him out would have been at fever pitch ............ ok the owners saying it years after they won the cup ............... that 89/90 season they on the whole where poor and I doubt he would have seen it out had they lost ............I went to the game against Sheff Wed 0-0 maybe the week after the 5-1 and let’s say the attmosphere was toxic so an early cup exit would have rammed it up big time............
Herbert Chapman.Unless there is someone out there who has a comparable 2 team (or more haul).
He’s the one who needs to let go.He retired almost a decade ago. Let the pain go.
Originally from Herefordshire, any relation of @peoffrey by any chance?