Ferguson retires - Moyes new manager

Fucking hell. The meeeeedja are suck-ups aren't they.

If a tea lady makes a decent brew at run of the mill football club she's well ...decent. She then gets a job making tea at Old Trafford and suddenly the tea leaves are picked by virgins, the water she uses has been filtered for 8000 years and the milk is from a select breed of unicorns.
 
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DavidSilvasLeftFoot said:
Just seen on the cover of The Daily Star that Moyes has been receiving death threats from United fans

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/313764/MOYES-DEATH-THREATS/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/31 ... H-THREATS/</a>

And apprently #MoyesOut is trending on twitter. Shows the difference in class doesn't it?

<a class="postlink" href="http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/why-moyesout-already-trending-twitter-174434500.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/wor ... 34500.html</a>

Think there's a chromosome or two missing from that lot sometimes.

Actually I've noticed this stuff a lot on twitter. It seems like it brings out the worst in a lot of teenagers these days. Only things of the most extreme nature seem enough to get peoples point across anymore.
 
Slice of life said:
Moyes interview on sky - Said he was preparing to start a new season with Everton, and the rag offer came completely out of the blue.

David Meek said that even last week when they were writing the programme notes, that Baconface was talking about the next season and coming years like he was still going to be there. No mention of retiring.

So it begs the question...WAS HE PUSHED?

Did he tell the board about his hip operation and having a few months off, and they mentioning the subject of retiring, followed by him spitting his dummy out and throwing in the towel?

All seems abit spur of the moment.
Its far simpler than that, he WAS planning for the future two weeks ago, but he hadn't met with the glazers to discuss strengthening the title winning team, with a view to also winning the CL again. With the imminent loss of some of the squads best players, the ones who can't play two games a week, and the averageness of many others.

When he did, and discovered that his ambitions for spending, were not the same as the glazers ambitions to take money out of the club, he knew the time to go was now.

He knew that we and Chelsea would be stronger next year, and that united would probably be weaker, and that in all likelyhood next season is going to be a struggle, so it would be far better if the struggle was someone elses.

I think he's given his mate a very poisened chalice, and gollum has walked right into it.
 
Solihull Samba Boys said:
ifiwasarichfan said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Story now emerging that Jose was really the first choice and turned them down. So Moyes was Plan B. Hahaha.


The plot thickens.

More details please Colin.

This is the original report from Madrid this morning. Google translate is your friend but the long and short of it is that Mourinho was approached as first choice but he and his family want Chelsea and London respectively, his daughter was enrolled in a school there last November.

<a class="postlink" href="http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/05/10/primera/1368175687_635041.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/05/10/ ... 35041.html</a>

lol, it just gets better
 
Charity Shield - Gollum's First Game

Should we be fortunate enough to overcome the mighty pie-eaters today, we will face Gollum's mob at Wembley in the Charity Shield. I know we usually struggle a bit against Everton with Moyes in charge but let's start as we mean to go on and rub there (purple) noses in it.
 
Re: Charity Shield - Gollum's First Game

Lets get today outta the first...

But 'if' it happens I can see two new managers 1st games in charge for a trophy being a derby match at wembley for the CS.

Interesting
 
Re: Charity Shield - Gollum's First Game

Moggzy said:
Lets get today outta the first...

But 'if' it happens I can see two new managers 1st games in charge for a trophy being a derby match at wembley for the CS.

Interesting

Getting ahead of ourselves is very Rag-like. They always start a season with four trophies in the cupboard and then adjust it as the season goes on - out of eight for the last two seasons they have 1!

Let's get the first one before we start talking about the second!
 
Hello all, just thought you might enjoy this perspective on Ferguson by an Australian sports writer:




FINAL WORD
Enough of the haggis-ography. Sir Alex Ferguson was manager of Manchester United for 27 years, during which it won the English league 13 times, but just two European championships, an underachievement, and sundry other baubles.

He was also a bitter, rude, graceless, humourless bully with a vile temper who held a position of singular privilege and influence in world sport and failed utterly to use it in any greater cause than his club's and his own. This is a view from afar, but if it was any different close up, it was wholly missed by a media that seemed to take a masochistic delight in his glares, snubs and insults. Ferguson once boycotted the BBC for seven years because of a personal feud. Even the announcement of his resignation was made by statement, with no press conference.

Ferguson's churlish hallmark was his open and unrelenting contempt for referees. United, in his time, never actually was beaten, just sometimes sabotaged by officials. Five times, he was given touchline bans because of critiques of referees - including calling one fat - and these sanctions were only the tip of an iceberg, when even generally passive administrators could take no more.

His overbearing attitude worked. The record shows that in soccer's peculiarly imprecise manner of timekeeping, referees added more time to the end of games in which United was trailing than they did for any other club. Notwithstanding, when Manchester City pipped United for last year's EPL title, Ferguson sneered: ''City did it against 10 men for half an hour and with five extra minutes to help them.''

He then did what he always did in such a spot - went out and paid whatever it took to buy out another club's captain and best player, in this case Arsenal's Robin Van Persie, club and player both making pious declarations about their mutual thoughts on ambition, style and fit, as if this was anything other than a business deal. Ferguson's coup was again acclaimed as a feat of football management instead of what it was, a hostile takeover. United won again.

Indisputably, Ferguson was a standover man. The best-known United player in his time was David Beckham, who in his autobiography described his relationship with Ferguson as love/fear. Ferguson disapproved of Beckham's marriage, punished him for missing a training session to be with a sick child, questioned his loyalty to the club when he accepted an invitation - as England captain - to go to Buckingham Palace and once made a paranoid phone call to Beckham, accusing him of being in Barcelona when in fact he was in a Manchester shopping mall.

Most famously, he once threw a boot at Beckham and struck him. I say famously because somehow, in the obsequious spirit of Ferguson-fawning, this is celebrated rather than reviled.
Ferguson was a modest player with a good soccer brain and a driven temperament who in time proved himself to be an adept manager, but that by itself is an unremarkable CV. At United, he inherited some youthful talent and developed others, but these alone would not have won him the games and championships that bought him the time to rebuild the team over and over.
Rather, he raided other clubs, repeatedly breaking records for transfer fees, also the hearts of rivals with no hope of competing: Keane, Cantona, Ferdinand, Yorke, Sheringham, Veron, van Nistelrooy, Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, van Persie. Reportedly, teenager Ronaldo was more taken by Arsenal and Arsene Wenger but United's money was irresistible.

Ferguson's time at United more or less coincided with the emergence of the Premier League, which is a glorious spectacle, but misnamed as a football competition. Nineteen of the EPL's 21 titles have been won by the three biggest and best resourced in the land. The biggest by far is United, because of a cachet and worldwide following that long predated Ferguson, but was massively exploited in his era. Now owned by the Glazer brothers, American tycoons with at best an affected interest in soccer, United scarcely has been a model of propriety; it was described on Friday as a ''debt mountain''. Yet when City won last year's title, Ferguson harrumphed about how City would continue to ''pay stupid money, pay silly salaries, and all that''.

Ferguson seemed never to understand either his luck or his obligation to the game, as did two Australian near-contemporaries in their localised code. It is hard to remember a contribution from him to the greater discourse, a la Kevin Sheedy. About his widest offering was to accuse UEFA of fixing the Champions League draw in favour of continental teams. The late Allan Jeans once said that a man only discovered whether he could coach or not when he was in charge of a team on the bottom. Ferguson never had that perspective. He never had any perspective.

Ferguson kept a martinet's grip on a good job for a long time, then one day noticed that he had grandchildren, his hip was hurting, and he stopped.


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