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eastlands oasis said:
dannyboy91uk said:
Is no one concerned at the transfer prices and the ages of these players? Experienced, in their prime but it seems to me like a lot of money will be spent on ageing players.

Ageing players? At 27 and 28! Pass me my pipe and slippers then call the u detainer, I must be ready for going at 42 if 28 is ageing.

What I meant by ageing is no sell on value if they stick to their supposed 5 year contracts, at least in Navas's case.
 
dannyboy91uk said:
eastlands oasis said:
dannyboy91uk said:
Is no one concerned at the transfer prices and the ages of these players? Experienced, in their prime but it seems to me like a lot of money will be spent on ageing players.

Ageing players? At 27 and 28! Pass me my pipe and slippers then call the u detainer, I must be ready for going at 42 if 28 is ageing.

What I meant by ageing is no sell on value if they stick to their supposed 5 year contracts, at least in Navas's case.
resale isn't always an issue.
winning trophies will gain revenue...
 
br62 said:
With Fernandinho and Navas we will have two really dynamic players.....their sheer pace will give the team a new dimension......unfortunately the likes of Garcia, Barry and Milner just cannot compete in the same way and I think our management have acted to resolve this deficiency in the team.

I don't think Fernandinho is all that fast. Not Barry/Garcia slow, but not Ramires fast either.
 
Are you guys going to see Garcia?

I think Barry can do a job but Garcia looks really slow and lethargic.
 
dannyboy91uk said:
eastlands oasis said:
dannyboy91uk said:
Is no one concerned at the transfer prices and the ages of these players? Experienced, in their prime but it seems to me like a lot of money will be spent on ageing players.

Ageing players? At 27 and 28! Pass me my pipe and slippers then call the u detainer, I must be ready for going at 42 if 28 is ageing.

What I meant by ageing is no sell on value if they stick to their supposed 5 year contracts, at least in Navas's case.
I think City are clearly going for a top squad now to try and not just compete but to win the Champions League.

The worldwide fame, money and sponsorships etc. that will be gained through the Champions League is everything.....they would not be worrying about a sell on fee for Navas in five years if success in the CL is achieved.
 
barcajaden said:
Are you guys going to see Garcia?

I think Barry can do a job but Garcia looks really slow and lethargic.


Garcia would be a good player in a Europa League team, Chmpions League I just don't think he has the pace.

I have to question his midfield abilities as well, his passing is not always great and always seems to misplace passes here and there.

I think he is a better center back, but not at a top 4 club.

We will see, he could really shine under Pellegrini next season.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
interesting interview...

<a class="postlink" href="http://shakhtar.com/en/news/26820" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://shakhtar.com/en/news/26820</a>

He says all the right things. Sounds like a really nice bloke.
 
Citizenhill said:
As a clean, efficient passer, Garcia is one of our best. He probably gives it away the least.

It's not missed placed passes that are his problem it's that he is very ponderous with the ball at his feet and appears to have it taken off him quite frequently.
 
Yeah, you can check all the stats too if you want (you can say they mean nothing too, bothers me not) as if he completes the pass I could care less if he 'telegraphs' it. He's a scapegoat, he'll never be accepted ever, not unless he becomes an overnight sensation which he won't be. Barry has been incredibly shit in some games, but people still rave about him, as it is we need to upgrade seriously in the center and this guy looks like he could be just that.

For the record I don't think Garcia is up to it, he's much to slow and doesn't really make up for it with his apparent intelligence either, loses his man too many times as does Barry. Just making the point his passing isn't the weak point.

skybluecelt1990 said:
Citizenhill said:
As a clean, efficient passer, Garcia is one of our best. He probably gives it away the least.

It's not missed placed passes that are his problem it's that he is very ponderous with the ball at his feet and appears to have it taken off him quite frequently.

I agree on this point too, he's too slow in play and in his head, I just think its unfair to tag him as someone who passes the ball away. He's a good header of the ball and a decent passer given a minute's time to think, he just happens to be too limited to play in a modern midfield which we are playing with, he's good at the base of three where he has more people doing work in front of him.
 
barcajaden said:
Are you guys going to see Garcia?

I think Barry can do a job but Garcia looks really slow and lethargic.

Garcia would do a fine job for a Villa or a Stoke.He's very mediocre at best,and,for our requirements,was a piss poor purchase.

The problem is,we are probably stuck with him - I have a feeling he is the new deadwood.

I hope he proves me wrong on all of the above.
 
Citizenhill said:
Yeah, you can check all the stats too if you want (you can say they mean nothing too, bothers me not) as if he completes the pass I could care less if he 'telegraphs' it. He's a scapegoat, he'll never be accepted ever, not unless he becomes an overnight sensation which he won't be. Barry has been incredibly shit in some games, but people still rave about him, as it is we need to upgrade seriously in the center and this guy looks like he could be just that.

For the record I don't think Garcia is up to it, he's much to slow and doesn't really make up for it with his apparent intelligence either, loses his man too many times as does Barry. Just making the point his passing isn't the weak point.

skybluecelt1990 said:
Citizenhill said:
As a clean, efficient passer, Garcia is one of our best. He probably gives it away the least.

It's not missed placed passes that are his problem it's that he is very ponderous with the ball at his feet and appears to have it taken off him quite frequently.

I agree on this point too, he's too slow in play and in his head, I just think its unfair to tag him as someone who passes the ball away. He's a good header of the ball and a decent passer given a minute's time to think, he just happens to be too limited to play in a modern midfield which we are playing with, he's good at the base of three where he has more people doing work in front of him.

You're not a good passer if you telegraph your passes
 
MCFC BOB said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
interesting interview...

<a class="postlink" href="http://shakhtar.com/en/news/26820" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://shakhtar.com/en/news/26820</a>
Is it?

Says a bit about his personality. Sees football as a career and a way to earn money and he doesn't like women's football, doesn't expand on the second point but with the emphasis we're putting towards a club for everybody at the moment it's an interesting PoV.
 
ElanJo said:
Citizenhill said:
Yeah, you can check all the stats too if you want (you can say they mean nothing too, bothers me not) as if he completes the pass I could care less if he 'telegraphs' it. He's a scapegoat, he'll never be accepted ever, not unless he becomes an overnight sensation which he won't be. Barry has been incredibly shit in some games, but people still rave about him, as it is we need to upgrade seriously in the center and this guy looks like he could be just that.

For the record I don't think Garcia is up to it, he's much to slow and doesn't really make up for it with his apparent intelligence either, loses his man too many times as does Barry. Just making the point his passing isn't the weak point.

skybluecelt1990 said:
It's not missed placed passes that are his problem it's that he is very ponderous with the ball at his feet and appears to have it taken off him quite frequently.

I agree on this point too, he's too slow in play and in his head, I just think its unfair to tag him as someone who passes the ball away. He's a good header of the ball and a decent passer given a minute's time to think, he just happens to be too limited to play in a modern midfield which we are playing with, he's good at the base of three where he has more people doing work in front of him.

You're not a good passer if you telegraph your passes

If he telegraphed his passes he'd lose the ball more from passing it away, as it is, he doesn't.
 
MCFC BOB said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
interesting interview...

<a class="postlink" href="http://shakhtar.com/en/news/26820" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://shakhtar.com/en/news/26820</a>
Is it?

Haha, love how he was painfully blunt in regards to not watching nor liking women's football.
 
The rags are not happy we signed him, they are fuming. Its sad that the majority of football fans have seen how good he is except some of ourselves.

He will walk into our starting 11 and improve our team instantly.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
MCFC BOB said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
interesting interview...

<a class="postlink" href="http://shakhtar.com/en/news/26820" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://shakhtar.com/en/news/26820</a>
Is it?

Says a bit about his personality. Sees football as a career and a way to earn money and he doesn't like women's football, doesn't expand on the second point but with the emphasis we're putting towards a club for everybody at the moment it's an interesting PoV.
Fernandinho saying he doesn't like women's football is just like him saying he doesn't like cricket - women's football is a different sport to the men's version of the game.

There are several footballers in the men's game that don't like the men's game either. Assou-Ekotto at Spurs openly admitted that he hates football and only plays for Spurs because of how much money he earns. I say fair play.
 
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