Fernandinho

[mammutly]

he'll be a very good player, give him time to adapt.

How long does this adaptation take and what does it consist of?

I'm just thinking that Fernandinho is supposedly a highly gifted player in his prime who has played football for most of his life.

Clearly he is struggling with the pace and physicality of the premier league. Does he need to speed up? Is he homesick for the Ukraine? Does he not like the food? What?

He's been brought in to play and compete at the very highest level of club football. Surely one aspect of that is being able to adapt very quickly. Every week brings a new challenge and consistently good players are able to cope. Why can't Fernandinho adapt quickly?
The obvious explanation is that he just isn't capable.

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

he'll be a very good player, give him time to adapt.

How long does this adaptation take and what does it consist of?

I'm just thinking that Fernandinho is supposedly a highly gifted player in his prime who has played football for most of his life.

Clearly he is struggling with the pace and physicality of the premier league. Does he need to speed up? Is he homesick for the Ukraine? Does he not like the food? What?

He's been brought in to play and compete at the very highest level of club football. Surely one aspect of that is being able to adapt very quickly. Every week brings a new challenge and consistently good players are able to cope. Why can't Fernandinho adapt quickly?
The obvious explanation is that he just isn't capable.

shut up please.

 

[LoveCity]

he'll be a very good player, give him time to adapt.

How long does this adaptation take and what does it consist of?

I'm just thinking that Fernandinho is supposedly a highly gifted player in his prime who has played football for most of his life.

Clearly he is struggling with the pace and physicality of the premier league. Does he need to speed up? Is he homesick for the Ukraine? Does he not like the food? What?

He's been brought in to play and compete at the very highest level of club football. Surely one aspect of that is being able to adapt very quickly. Every week brings a new challenge and consistently good players are able to cope. Why can't Fernandinho adapt quickly?
The obvious explanation is that he just isn't capable.

shut up please.

Agreed. Never seen a City 'fan' so urgent and desperate to see a player fail so he can be vindicated. It's depressingly pathetic. Every time he misplaces a pass, this guy is going to be celebrating and on Bluemoon.

And when did so many of our fans become amateur accountants aka Arsenal fans, with their obsessing over transfer fees? The market is now heavily inflated and £30million isn't what it used to be. Spurs just spent £30million on a much less proven player (albeit a very, very promising one)... Tottenham bloody Hotspur.

 

[mammutly]

he'll be a very good player, give him time to adapt.

How long does this adaptation take and what does it consist of?

I'm just thinking that Fernandinho is supposedly a highly gifted player in his prime who has played football for most of his life.

Clearly he is struggling with the pace and physicality of the premier league. Does he need to speed up? Is he homesick for the Ukraine? Does he not like the food? What?

He's been brought in to play and compete at the very highest level of club football. Surely one aspect of that is being able to adapt very quickly. Every week brings a new challenge and consistently good players are able to cope. Why can't Fernandinho adapt quickly?
The obvious explanation is that he just isn't capable.

shut up please.

You're lucky that I'm more polite than I used to be.

 

[jake28]

he'll be a very good player, give him time to adapt.

How long does this adaptation take and what does it consist of?

I'm just thinking that Fernandinho is supposedly a highly gifted player in his prime who has played football for most of his life.

Clearly he is struggling with the pace and physicality of the premier league. Does he need to speed up? Is he homesick for the Ukraine? Does he not like the food? What?

He's been brought in to play and compete at the very highest level of club football. Surely one aspect of that is being able to adapt very quickly. Every week brings a new challenge and consistently good players are able to cope. Why can't Fernandinho adapt quickly?
The obvious explanation is that he just isn't capable.

shut up please.

It's his opinion and he makes valid points so why should he "shut up"...before we saw Fernandinho play for City he was touted as a mixture of De Rossi and Yaya by the way some were talking about him. Let's hope he adapts very quickly.

 

[taconinja]

How long does this adaptation take and what does it consist of?

I'm just thinking that Fernandinho is supposedly a highly gifted player in his prime who has played football for most of his life.

Clearly he is struggling with the pace and physicality of the premier league. Does he need to speed up? Is he homesick for the Ukraine? Does he not like the food? What?

He's been brought in to play and compete at the very highest level of club football. Surely one aspect of that is being able to adapt very quickly. Every week brings a new challenge and consistently good players are able to cope. Why can't Fernandinho adapt quickly?
The obvious explanation is that he just isn't capable.

shut up please.

It's his opinion and he makes valid points so why should he "shut up"...before we saw Fernandinho play for City he was touted as a mixture of De Rossi and Yaya by the way some were talking about him. Let's hope he adapts very quickly.

He doesn't make valid points. He comes across as an idiot with a head wound.

 

[mammutly]

How long does this adaptation take and what does it consist of?

I'm just thinking that Fernandinho is supposedly a highly gifted player in his prime who has played football for most of his life.

Clearly he is struggling with the pace and physicality of the premier league. Does he need to speed up? Is he homesick for the Ukraine? Does he not like the food? What?

He's been brought in to play and compete at the very highest level of club football. Surely one aspect of that is being able to adapt very quickly. Every week brings a new challenge and consistently good players are able to cope. Why can't Fernandinho adapt quickly?
The obvious explanation is that he just isn't capable.

shut up please.

Agreed. Never seen a City 'fan' so urgent and desperate to see a player fail so he can be vindicated. It's depressingly pathetic. Every time he misplaces a pass, this guy is going to be celebrating and on Bluemoon.

And when did so many of our fans become amateur accountants aka Arsenal fans, with their obsessing over transfer fees? The market is now heavily inflated and £30million isn't what it used to be. Spurs just spent £30million on a much less proven player (albeit a very, very promising one)... Tottenham bloody Hotspur.

What a load of crap.

I'm offering an opinion based on observation rather than reputation. There is no desperation from me anywhere to see any player fail. You clearly haven't read my posts.<br /><br />-- Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:11 pm --<br /><br />

shut up please.

It's his opinion and he makes valid points so why should he "shut up"...before we saw Fernandinho play for City he was touted as a mixture of De Rossi and Yaya by the way some were talking about him. Let's hope he adapts very quickly.

He doesn't make valid points. He comes across as an idiot with a head wound.

Perhaps you could respond to the points I raise above rather than just calling me names. Or is that too difficult for you?

 

[forevermancity]

Played well so far, will only get better

Getting abit of stick on here from clueless posters who probably have never watched a game.

Will be a brilliant player in the champs league and like yaya, will grow into the season

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Played well so far, will only get better

Getting abit of stick on here from clueless posters who probably have never watched a game.

Will be a brilliant player in the champs league and like yaya, will grow into the season

How i feel mate.

 

[mammutly]

Played well so far, will only get better

Getting abit of stick on here from clueless posters who probably have never watched a game.

Will be a brilliant player in the champs league and like yaya, will grow into the season

Played well? Hmmm...

Clearly I've never watched a game in the sense that you've watched a game. I just sit in my seat, which is in block 105 - 5 rows from the front, near the half way line, and look at what's happening.

Unlike you, who is blessed with some 6th sense that sees not only brilliance that is denied to the rest of us, but also also a wonderful view of the future as well.
Amazing.

 

[Otamendi's Beard]

Some over-the-top dog turd being posted in here about Fernandinho.

Nobody played great first half so no surprise to see him not shine either. Second half he was the main reason we got a stronger foothold in the game, with non-stop chasing and battling with the opposition. He also showed some neat play.

Looked fit as well and was still making bursts forward at the end.

Some posts are just embarrassing.

I am sorry that alternative opinion embarrasses you. This kind of forum isn't to everybody's taste.

I find the view that it's alright for one player to be crap if everyone else is a bit daft TBH.

There was no great second half improvement in Fernandinho yesterday. He looked clumsy and ran around to no real effect. Mostly the game passed him by. The guy just does not look like £30 million standard player.

He's had a full pre season and 3 games to show what he can do. If he starts against Stoke ahead of Milner, Barry or Nasri I'll be very disappointed.

Can't remember singling anybody out but some of the negative posts are embarrassing. I'd probably pick out Len Rum if I had to.

I'm happy to listen to opinion if they have foundation and the poster is fair, which I can see you have been.

However, I totally disagree on your views - apart from the price tag. If you didn't see the improvement in the second half you must have watched a different game. I don't think it was a coincidence that Huddlestone was much quieter after the break once Fernandinho pressed him tighter and figured him out.

Confident he'll come good and most will be backtracking by the end of the season.

 

[IanBishopsHaircut]

If you're basing your opinion on yesterday's game then lets look at Yaya shall we?

Was far worse than Fernandinho..did fuck all barring the free kick

 

[mammutly]

Some over-the-top dog turd being posted in here about Fernandinho.

Nobody played great first half so no surprise to see him not shine either. Second half he was the main reason we got a stronger foothold in the game, with non-stop chasing and battling with the opposition. He also showed some neat play.

Looked fit as well and was still making bursts forward at the end.

Some posts are just embarrassing.

I am sorry that alternative opinion embarrasses you. This kind of forum isn't to everybody's taste.

I find the view that it's alright for one player to be crap if everyone else is a bit daft TBH.

There was no great second half improvement in Fernandinho yesterday. He looked clumsy and ran around to no real effect. Mostly the game passed him by. The guy just does not look like £30 million standard player.

He's had a full pre season and 3 games to show what he can do. If he starts against Stoke ahead of Milner, Barry or Nasri I'll be very disappointed.

Can't remember singling anybody out but some of the negative posts are embarrassing. I'd probably pick out Len Rum if I had to.

I'm happy to listen to opinion if they have foundation and the poster is fair, which I can see you have been.

However, I totally disagree on your views - apart from the price tag. If you didn't see the improvement in the second half you must have watched a different game. I don't think it was a coincidence that Huddlestone was much quieter after the break once Fernandinho pressed him tighter and figured him out.

Confident he'll come good and most will be backtracking by the end of the season.

Fair enough, mate. No problem at all with people having a different view. I just don't think that he has the physical strength to be the type of player people want him to be. Huddlestone was knackered after 70 minutes yesterday and it was frankly shocking how he strolled through our midfield in the first half.

But, that said, I also hope Fernandinho will come good - i just don't want his adaptation phase to cost us points.

 

[Joycee Banercheck]

I am sorry that alternative opinion embarrasses you. This kind of forum isn't to everybody's taste.

I find the view that it's alright for one player to be crap if everyone else is a bit daft TBH.

There was no great second half improvement in Fernandinho yesterday. He looked clumsy and ran around to no real effect. Mostly the game passed him by. The guy just does not look like £30 million standard player.

He's had a full pre season and 3 games to show what he can do. If he starts against Stoke ahead of Milner, Barry or Nasri I'll be very disappointed.

Can't remember singling anybody out but some of the negative posts are embarrassing. I'd probably pick out Len Rum if I had to.

I'm happy to listen to opinion if they have foundation and the poster is fair, which I can see you have been.

However, I totally disagree on your views - apart from the price tag. If you didn't see the improvement in the second half you must have watched a different game. I don't think it was a coincidence that Huddlestone was much quieter after the break once Fernandinho pressed him tighter and figured him out.

Confident he'll come good and most will be backtracking by the end of the season.

Fair enough, mate. No problem at all with people having a different view. I just don't think that he has the physical strength to be the type of player people want him to be. Huddlestone was knackered after 70 minutes yesterday and it was frankly shocking how he strolled through our midfield in the first half.

But, that said, I also hope Fernandinho will come good - i just don't want his adaptation phase to cost us points.

Never ev3er thought.....everything o do is like fallin'

 

[bluethunder]

It's quite simple, it's blatantly obvious today the problem in the midfield, fernandinho was so far out of position today it was frightening.

Yaya/Fernandinho will never work, you have Yaya who strolls about like he doesn't have to do anything. Then you have Fernandinho, who covers ground but unfortunately can't keep it up after 20 minutes.

The whole point of the two, is one holding and one attacking. Now the problem.. they're both too attack minded. Fernandinho against Newcastle was average. All this garbage about him being brilliant. He got away with murder (first game and allowances made) but in reality he wasn't very good and today he was worse, he made 2 good tackles in that game and that was about it. He lost the ball too many times in the wrong areas and he's ALWAYS takes too many touches (against Hull he did it 6 times inside the first 25 minutes).

You need one tackler, a grafter, a workhorse, a man who can cover the middle left right and centre. Then you need one man who can carry the ball, attack, put in the odd tackle, but makes sure he stays tight and marks. That setup was Yaya Toure and De Jong. It won't work with Fernandinho and Yaya.

Indifference, unbalanced. Yaya pushes on, Fernandinho goes forward aswell at times - wonder why on the counter attack we're so open? intelligence tells you not to go forward, don't need to be a professional footballer to work that one out.

Against United RVP will come short and we'll get fucking steamrolled in the centre, Yaya can't tackle. So that leaves Fernandinho, who also has proved he hasn't quite got the pace of the English game as of yet. He needs time, and i'll tell you now... if we start with Yaya and Fernandinho in the Champions League, we'll get absolutely destroyed.

Barry and De Jong never worked, Fernandinho and Yaya will never work.

James Milner or Jack Rodwell. Or even both with Yaya advanced as another option, i'll give Fernandinho time and he deserves a chance. But it tells you all everything you need to know about a footballer, if he doesn't recognise his own mistakes after a few months.

It's quite simple, we need a player of De Jongs ability who can tackle and win the ball. Who cares if he isn't skilful? that's not their job. Win the ball, clean up. Supply the next man, they do the rest..

When did Yaya ever play with De Jong in a 2 man midfield? Rarely, if ever. There was never a partnership established between the 2. So your point becomes flawed straight away.

Fernandinho is more than capable of playing as an anchorman. It just so happens that at the moment for whatever reason, Yaya has been asked to be the deeper sitting player. We don't even need an anchorman in the high line system that Pellegrini is trying to implement, the whole point of this system is that everyone presses the ball high up the pitch and we win the ball back quickly without the need for a holding player to break up the play. You want your reason why we're so open on the counter attack there it is, players laziness in not pressing the ball properly in the opponents half.

Virtually 100% of the top 6/teams in the champions league play with 3 in the middle, it should come as no fucking surprise that we'd get outnumbered in midfield areas if we play with 2 in the middle in these games. Hardly rocket science.

we usually have one player holding to provide cover for zabaleta or clichy.

yaya and fernandinho interchange. the opposition will never know which one is going to bomb forward and which one is going to hold.

ofcourse, both can do the holding job at the same time in which case the fullbacks go further up the pitch.

i do agree that we should try the 4-3-3 . in many games we're going to be outnumbered in midfield in which case one of the attacking players will be forced to drop deep.

 

[Marvin]

Fernandinho has done well for us so far. One of the positives so far

His running power and stamina is extraordinary.

Watch him. It's always Fernandinho who is in the face of the opponent. Not Yaya, and not Silva. I was watching the 2nd half against Hull and suddenly I realised that Fernandinho was everywhere.

He's decent on the ball too.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Fernandinho has done well for us so far. One of the positives so far

His running power and stamina is extraordinary.

Watch him. It's always Fernandinho who is in the face of the opponent. Not Yaya, and not Silva. I was watching the 2nd half against Hull and suddenly I realised that Fernandinho was everywhere.

He's decent on the ball too.

Spot on Marvin,and alongside a more industrious/dynamic type(Milner or Rodwell) he would be fantastic.

 

[davymcfc]

Fernandinho has done well for us so far. One of the positives so far

His running power and stamina is extraordinary.

Watch him. It's always Fernandinho who is in the face of the opponent. Not Yaya, and not Silva. I was watching the 2nd half against Hull and suddenly I realised that Fernandinho was everywhere.

He's decent on the ball too.

Correct.

 

[Shooter 83]

The empty head muppet brigade are out in force slating a new player 3 games in to the season. Nothing new.

 

[LookIfoundmyKnob]

First season in the epl and he's getting grief? He played well first game. Wait until the season is at least over with before we label him worthless.