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Fernandinho
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sam-caddick
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What's being annoying me so far this season, well, up until the Plzen game anyway, was that I thought be bought Fernandinho as a Barry replacement yet we seem to playing Yaya where Gareth was and Fernandinho where Yaya was.
It all changed against Plzen and Yaya and Fernandinho switched to the positions I thought they would start originally, and if anything it worked far better than what we have seen so far.
Yaya excels going forward, but he needs that Barry player to sweep up for him and thread him balls, playing Yaya as a defensive midfielder in our side is just a waste, he can't hack the pressing from opposing strikers and he struggles when opposition attacking players turn him.
I just hope to see Fernandinho playing deeper from now on with Yaya doing box to box duties.
It all changed against Plzen and Yaya and Fernandinho switched to the positions I thought they would start originally, and if anything it worked far better than what we have seen so far.
Yaya excels going forward, but he needs that Barry player to sweep up for him and thread him balls, playing Yaya as a defensive midfielder in our side is just a waste, he can't hack the pressing from opposing strikers and he struggles when opposition attacking players turn him.
I just hope to see Fernandinho playing deeper from now on with Yaya doing box to box duties.
While you are right that Fernandihno may have been bought to play the holding role, it was clear in preseason he was taking some time to adapt. If I were to guess, I'd say MP pushed him up and brought Yaya lower, because of Yaya's ability to keep clean possession until Dihno was fully up to speed. Besides, Dihno is better than Yaya at closing players down quickly. So it stands to reason that MP might have tried to use Dihno higher up to help that early pressure style he wants his team to play.sam-caddick said:What's being annoying me so far this season, well, up until the Plzen game anyway, was that I thought be bought Fernandinho as a Barry replacement yet we seem to playing Yaya where Gareth was and Fernandinho where Yaya was.
It all changed against Plzen and Yaya and Fernandinho switched to the positions I thought they would start originally, and if anything it worked far better than what we have seen so far.
Yaya excels going forward, but he needs that Barry player to sweep up for him and thread him balls, playing Yaya as a defensive midfielder in our side is just a waste, he can't hack the pressing from opposing strikers and he struggles when opposition attacking players turn him.
I just hope to see Fernandinho playing deeper from now on with Yaya doing box to box duties.
Against Plzen however, Yaya was very good at early pressure. On multiple occassions he jumped out and immediately attacked the Plzen player on the ball. However his pressure wained in the 2nd half once he got tired. Good thing he was subbed, as he had slowed down in the last 10 minutes before he was pulled. I like the testing MP is doing. It will take some time, but best to test out all the pistons, until the right balance is found.
FantasyIreland
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I think its a shame to restrict him to a holding/defensive role as he has much more to his game than that,he is pretty much the complete midfielder being more suited to the box to box role than any of our other options.
Right now,like Dax states,i think the boss is simply experimenting with the optimum balance and line up,hence our inconsistent/disjointed start to the season.
I do believe we are still missing that specialist midfielder that excels in the destroyer role,someone like Sandro perhaps,a player that would probably better compliment Fernandinho.
Right now,like Dax states,i think the boss is simply experimenting with the optimum balance and line up,hence our inconsistent/disjointed start to the season.
I do believe we are still missing that specialist midfielder that excels in the destroyer role,someone like Sandro perhaps,a player that would probably better compliment Fernandinho.
FantasyIreland said:I think its a shame to restrict him to a holding/defensive role as he has much more to his game than that,he is pretty much the complete midfielder being more suited to the box to box role than any of our other options.
Right now,like Dax states,i think the boss is simply experimenting with the optimum balance and line up,hence our inconsistent/disjointed start to the season.
I do believe we are still missing that specialist midfielder that excels in the destroyer role,someone like Sandro perhaps,a player that would probably better compliment Fernandinho.
Bollocks we need players to compliment Yaya he is one of the few world class talisman that we have in the side. If Fernandinho ain't up to it then we should never have bought him and hung on to Barry.
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You're missing my point Mike.
Fernandinho and Yaya excel in a similar role,they would both be better complimented by a more 'disciplined' colleague.
For that reason,i believe having the two as our centre pairing isn't as effective a midfield as we could have,especially so,as has been evident,when Kompany is missing.
Fernandinho is certainly up to it,he is a superb player but different to Barry,that comparison is wrong.
As for Yaya being world class,we have a very long thread for that topic........
Fernandinho and Yaya excel in a similar role,they would both be better complimented by a more 'disciplined' colleague.
For that reason,i believe having the two as our centre pairing isn't as effective a midfield as we could have,especially so,as has been evident,when Kompany is missing.
Fernandinho is certainly up to it,he is a superb player but different to Barry,that comparison is wrong.
As for Yaya being world class,we have a very long thread for that topic........
prestonibbo_mcfc
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On another side, have you all noticed how good his English is already. It's not fluent but it's
bloody good for only a month of learning. I remember him saying it wouldn't take him long,
but bloody hell. Fair play that man.
bloody good for only a month of learning. I remember him saying it wouldn't take him long,
but bloody hell. Fair play that man.
morleyswife
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It's early days
There are a lot questioning pellers. However it's a new team with new key players. Last transfer window didn't include that many ready made first team players. Mainly subs.
The fulcrum of the team is midfield and we have changed it. Barry is a loss for me yet I have a good feeling about Fernandinho and I believe it will reap rewards quickly. He may never reach the level of reading the game as Gaz, but if he gets close then his physical attributes will mean we have a very talented holding mid.
There are a lot questioning pellers. However it's a new team with new key players. Last transfer window didn't include that many ready made first team players. Mainly subs.
The fulcrum of the team is midfield and we have changed it. Barry is a loss for me yet I have a good feeling about Fernandinho and I believe it will reap rewards quickly. He may never reach the level of reading the game as Gaz, but if he gets close then his physical attributes will mean we have a very talented holding mid.
Commitment, intelligence and Professionalism! It doesn't surprise me. He looks the type.prestonibbo_mcfc said:On another side, have you all noticed how good his English is already. It's not fluent but it's
bloody good for only a month of learning. I remember him saying it wouldn't take him long,
but bloody hell. Fair play that man.
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