Fernandinho

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bluethunder said:
lastmanback said:
if the manager tells him to sit in front of the defense and do fuck all, then that is what he is gona do.
Blue thunder, what does this mean ?
Manager says do fuck all ???

fuck all means little, or nothing at all.

holding midfielders don't do much. they sit in front of the back four. analyzing and reading the game, they do a bit of defeding and passing aswell.

have you ever seen garcia play ?
yes ...hes shite
 
goatinho said:
bluethunder said:
lastmanback said:
if the manager tells him to sit in front of the defense and do fuck all, then that is what he is gona do.
Blue thunder, what does this mean ?
Manager says do fuck all ???

fuck all means little, or nothing at all.

holding midfielders don't do much. they sit in front of the back four. analyzing and reading the game, they do a bit of defeding and passing aswell.

have you ever seen garcia play ?
yes ...hes shite

he is not shite. he is good at what he does. i.e. sitting in front of the back four. defending. winning back the ball and passing it to the play makers.

problem is that if the manager wants him to do more than that, he cannot do it. that's why we purchased a holding midfielder than can also play as a CM or CAM if necessarily.
 
bluethunder said:
lastmanback said:
Yaya is acting the big man and not putting in a shift ,
thats why anyone who plays beside him will be over worked and made to look shit.
Regardless of yaya been played a bit deeper he should put in a shift.
Barcelona even fucked him back to center back,
Fernandinho is going to have extra work load while playing along side yaya.

yaya will do what the manager tells him to do.

if the manager tells him to sit in front of the defense and do fuck all, then that is what he is gona do.
I think Yaya is the problem. Fern was ace today.
 
As far as a CM being able to do a job at defending, I know this will sound weird, but I do remember Garcia doing a fine job against Chelsea and we dominated them with Garcia, Rodwell, Yaya, Milner and Silva in midfield. Perhaps Garcia can do a job with pacy players (Fernandinho/Rodwell) alongside him, or maybe I'm just imagining things.
 
NoahCity said:
As far as a CM being able to do a job at defending, I know this will sound weird, but I do remember Garcia doing a fine job against Chelsea and we dominated them with Garcia, Rodwell, Yaya, Milner and Silva in midfield. Perhaps Garcia can do a job with pacy players (Fernandinho/Rodwell) alongside him, or maybe I'm just imagining things.
Fuck footbALLL! We HAVE to win, now!!!!
 
Re: F

Morning fellas

As you can tell by the user ID I'm a Fulham boy (yeah yeah come on stop laughing)

Just wanna say that this mush is unreal - I saw him a dozen or so times when he was at shaktar - twice against us in the Europa league and him and Jason tore us a new one in both games.

Shaktar gave us a footballing lesion over 2 legs (god knows who we beat the) and I mean a football lesion to the point where is say they were the best footballing team iv ever seen at the cottage and your fella was at the heart of it all.
 
I wasn't that impressed with him against Newcastle. I thought he looked off the pace for much of that game, caught in possession a few times and wayward passing.

Against Cardiff, I thought he was much better, sharper and better passing.

And against Hull, I thought he was excellent. Outnumbered for most of the game, so it was difficult for him, but he was everywhere, constantly competing for the ball and hardly put a foot wrong. Did he put a foot wrong?

He is going to be first on the team sheet for us, he's that good.
 
Feel sorry for Fernandinho he was playing alongside one lazy git yesterday and has been all season.
 
Freestyler said:
It's quite simple, it's blatantly obvious today the problem in the midfield, fernandinho was so far out of position today it was frightening.

Yaya/Fernandinho will never work, you have Yaya who strolls about like he doesn't have to do anything. Then you have Fernandinho, who covers ground but unfortunately can't keep it up after 20 minutes.

The whole point of the two, is one holding and one attacking. Now the problem.. they're both too attack minded. Fernandinho against Newcastle was average. All this garbage about him being brilliant. He got away with murder (first game and allowances made) but in reality he wasn't very good and today he was worse, he made 2 good tackles in that game and that was about it. He lost the ball too many times in the wrong areas and he's ALWAYS takes too many touches (against Hull he did it 6 times inside the first 25 minutes).

You need one tackler, a grafter, a workhorse, a man who can cover the middle left right and centre. Then you need one man who can carry the ball, attack, put in the odd tackle, but makes sure he stays tight and marks. That setup was Yaya Toure and De Jong. It won't work with Fernandinho and Yaya.

Indifference, unbalanced. Yaya pushes on, Fernandinho goes forward aswell at times - wonder why on the counter attack we're so open? intelligence tells you not to go forward, don't need to be a professional footballer to work that one out.

Against United RVP will come short and we'll get fucking steamrolled in the centre, Yaya can't tackle. So that leaves Fernandinho, who also has proved he hasn't quite got the pace of the English game as of yet. He needs time, and i'll tell you now... if we start with Yaya and Fernandinho in the Champions League, we'll get absolutely destroyed.

Barry and De Jong never worked, Fernandinho and Yaya will never work.

James Milner or Jack Rodwell. Or even both with Yaya advanced as another option, i'll give Fernandinho time and he deserves a chance. But it tells you all everything you need to know about a footballer, if he doesn't recognise his own mistakes after a few months.

It's quite simple, we need a player of De Jongs ability who can tackle and win the ball. Who cares if he isn't skilful? that's not their job. Win the ball, clean up. Supply the next man, they do the rest..

When did Yaya ever play with De Jong in a 2 man midfield? Rarely, if ever. There was never a partnership established between the 2. So your point becomes flawed straight away.

Fernandinho is more than capable of playing as an anchorman. It just so happens that at the moment for whatever reason, Yaya has been asked to be the deeper sitting player. We don't even need an anchorman in the high line system that Pellegrini is trying to implement, the whole point of this system is that everyone presses the ball high up the pitch and we win the ball back quickly without the need for a holding player to break up the play. You want your reason why we're so open on the counter attack there it is, players laziness in not pressing the ball properly in the opponents half.

Virtually 100% of the top 6/teams in the champions league play with 3 in the middle, it should come as no fucking surprise that we'd get outnumbered in midfield areas if we play with 2 in the middle in these games. Hardly rocket science.
 
It will take time for Fernandhino to form an effective partnership with Yaya. Yaya is used to playing alongside players like De Jong, Barry & Garcia. He's been given latitude to push forward at will, knowing those players will cover him. But Fernandhino also likes to get forward. The two haven't yet developed an understanding as to when they push forward or sit back. They're very hesitant. They end up stuck in the middle performing neither role particularly effectively.

If they can develop an understanding it could be a brilliant partnership. But at the moment its all a bit Lampard & Gerrard.
 
Some over-the-top dog turd being posted in here about Fernandinho.

Nobody played great first half so no surprise to see him not shine either. Second half he was the main reason we got a stronger foothold in the game, with non-stop chasing and battling with the opposition. He also showed some neat play.

Looked fit as well and was still making bursts forward at the end.

Some posts are just embarrassing.
 
JonnyBoi said:
Some over-the-top dog turd being posted in here about Fernandinho.

Nobody played great first half so no surprise to see him not shine either. Second half he was the main reason we got a stronger foothold in the game, with non-stop chasing and battling with the opposition. He also showed some neat play.

Looked fit as well and was still making bursts forward at the end.

Some posts are just embarrassing.

100% this, can those who are whining about Fernandinho, please read this post a few times and go watch the game again...
 
SuperSilva said:
JonnyBoi said:
Some over-the-top dog turd being posted in here about Fernandinho.

Nobody played great first half so no surprise to see him not shine either. Second half he was the main reason we got a stronger foothold in the game, with non-stop chasing and battling with the opposition. He also showed some neat play.

Looked fit as well and was still making bursts forward at the end.

Some posts are just embarrassing.

100% this, can those who are whining about Fernandinho, please read this post a few times and go watch the game again...

Still thinking gelson Fernandez every time I watch him.
 
Still adapting, but he is the kind of midfielder Pellegrini wants. Which is probably why they are trying to force Barry out. Because he is slow and useless going forward. Doesn't suit the high pressing game. And Garcia IMO is the same. He'll be the next midfielder Txiki will replace with a more all rounded player.
 
JonnyBoi said:
Some over-the-top dog turd being posted in here about Fernandinho.

Nobody played great first half so no surprise to see him not shine either. Second half he was the main reason we got a stronger foothold in the game, with non-stop chasing and battling with the opposition. He also showed some neat play.

Looked fit as well and was still making bursts forward at the end.

Some posts are just embarrassing.

I am sorry that alternative opinion embarrasses you. This kind of forum isn't to everybody's taste.

I find the view that it's alright for one player to be crap if everyone else is a bit daft TBH.

There was no great second half improvement in Fernandinho yesterday. He looked clumsy and ran around to no real effect. Mostly the game passed him by. The guy just does not look like £30 million standard player.

He's had a full pre season and 3 games to show what he can do. If he starts against Stoke ahead of Milner, Barry or Nasri I'll be very disappointed.
 
.[/quote]I am sorry that alternative opinion embarrasses you. This kind of forum isn't to everybody's taste.

I find the view that it's alright for one player to be crap if everyone else is a bit daft TBH.

There was no great second half improvement in Fernandinho yesterday. He looked clumsy and ran around to no real effect. Mostly the game passed him by. The guy just does not look like £30 million standard player.

He's had a full pre season and 3 games to show what he can do. If he starts against Stoke ahead of Milner, Barry or Nasri I'll be very disappointed.[/quote]
Maybe you should ring city and tell them how you feel
 
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