Fernandinho

[daxman]

There are no haters. What are you reading that makes you think that?

if you been following this thread you'd know that a few posters been very critical of fernandinho.

one stupid poster even said that fellaini is a much better player.

every other day some loser makes a negative comment.

Negative comment doesn't make someone stupid or a loser. Fellani at Everton was a class player, but very different from Fernandinho.

I don't think Fernandinho is the superstar some people make out, doesn't mean I don't think he's decent.

Funny this- You are doing the exact same thing you have accused others of. True, just because you think he has some faults doesn't mean you hate him. nor does someone thinking he is an upgrade over Barry or Garcia, mean they think he is a superstar.

 

[Mcfchamps]

Fernandinho is me the best cm dm am in the prem he can control the ball like not other and his tackles are impeccable.

 

[JJCMCFC]

I've been somewhat disappointed by him. No matter what any one says, there is no way this guy was worth £30 million. He's got a decent touch, a decent pass, and is pretty good at breaking up attacks before they happen, but he gives very little protection to the back four and is very lightweight and I don't think I've noted a single outstanding attribute.

I know you've all heard this before but "we should never have got rid of Barry".

However, I think Ferna could be a very good player in the BPL once he's settled in a little bit, but for now, why not play Milner just in front of the back four? For me he's like Barry V:2.0. He's effort can't be faulted, his tackling is sublime, he'd cover the back four, has strength and pace (well, more than Barry) and his passing is sublime.

For me the Midfield should be:
CDM: Milner
RM: Navas
LM: Silva
CAM: Yaya Toure

The other advantage of this is pushing Yaya into a more effective attacking position.

 

[bluethunder]

I've been somewhat disappointed by him. No matter what any one says, there is no way this guy was worth £30 million. He's got a decent touch, a decent pass, and is pretty good at breaking up attacks before they happen, but he gives very little protection to the back four and is very lightweight and I don't think I've noted a single outstanding attribute.

I know you've all heard this before but "we should never have got rid of Barry".

However, I think Ferna could be a very good player in the BPL once he's settled in a little bit, but for now, why not play Milner just in front of the back four? For me he's like Barry V:2.0. He's effort can't be faulted, his tackling is sublime, he'd cover the back four, has strength and pace (well, more than Barry) and his passing is sublime.

For me the Midfield should be:
CDM: Milner
RM: Navas
LM: Silva
CAM: Yaya Toure

The other advantage of this is pushing Yaya into a more effective attacking position.

the fact that you propose this line up shows to me that you have very little knowledge of football.

you cannot possibly play that diamond with navas on the right, it would have to be a player that can both defend and attack.

you can't even play david silva on the left of a diamond formation, it would be too risky.

oh and the last time we played milner (correct me if im wrong) in midfield, he got a red card.

 

[UnknownGenius]

I've been somewhat disappointed by him. No matter what any one says, there is no way this guy was worth £30 million. He's got a decent touch, a decent pass, and is pretty good at breaking up attacks before they happen, but he gives very little protection to the back four and is very lightweight and I don't think I've noted a single outstanding attribute.

I know you've all heard this before but "we should never have got rid of Barry".

However, I think Ferna could be a very good player in the BPL once he's settled in a little bit, but for now, why not play Milner just in front of the back four? For me he's like Barry V:2.0. He's effort can't be faulted, his tackling is sublime, he'd cover the back four, has strength and pace (well, more than Barry) and his passing is sublime.

For me the Midfield should be:
CDM: Milner
RM: Navas
LM: Silva
CAM: Yaya Toure

The other advantage of this is pushing Yaya into a more effective attacking position.

Milner's passing never struck me as sublime. The effort yes, he tackling yes, the cover yes, strength yes. But he's actually one of the slower players on the team if you watch him carefully. Has no real acceleration. He beats his man on the outside mostly via tricks/dribbling. And Fernandinho beats hm there as well. I'm not saying that Milner can't do a job in front of the back four, but it would be similar to De Jong, and not Barry. Simply lacks passing ability.

 

[1dart]

An upgrade on Barry for me.
Intelligent in the same way but much more mobile.
Seems to have come in for some stick from elements of the media for no reason I can see.
Quickens our central midfield play and gives our back 4 essential cover.
Top player.

Dont see how his cover has been any better than that of Barry's, we have conceded a lot this season through a lack of midfield cover.

 

[eversince 76]

An upgrade on Barry for me.
Intelligent in the same way but much more mobile.
Seems to have come in for some stick from elements of the media for no reason I can see.
Quickens our central midfield play and gives our back 4 essential cover.
Top player.

Dont see how his cover has been any better than that of Barry's, we have conceded a lot this season through a lack of midfield cover.

It's simply because the defensive line does not yet meet pellegrini's demands of playing high upfield, esp. in awaygames. At home we seem confident enough. Therefore it looks like Fernandinho doesn't cover the defence too well. It's simply because he needs to fill too big a gap that often appears between midfield and the backline. It will come good, and when it does you'll see fernandinho's strenght in breaking up play and in an instant put us on the attack. That is where Barry held us back (too slow and one-tempo), evenso De Jong (always laying the ball back or sideways).

 

[JJCMCFC]

I've been somewhat disappointed by him. No matter what any one says, there is no way this guy was worth £30 million. He's got a decent touch, a decent pass, and is pretty good at breaking up attacks before they happen, but he gives very little protection to the back four and is very lightweight and I don't think I've noted a single outstanding attribute.

I know you've all heard this before but "we should never have got rid of Barry".

However, I think Ferna could be a very good player in the BPL once he's settled in a little bit, but for now, why not play Milner just in front of the back four? For me he's like Barry V:2.0. He's effort can't be faulted, his tackling is sublime, he'd cover the back four, has strength and pace (well, more than Barry) and his passing is sublime.

For me the Midfield should be:
CDM: Milner
RM: Navas
LM: Silva
CAM: Yaya Toure

The other advantage of this is pushing Yaya into a more effective attacking position.

the fact that you propose this line up shows to me that you have very little knowledge of football.

you cannot possibly play that diamond with navas on the right, it would have to be a player that can both defend and attack.

you can't even play david silva on the left of a diamond formation, it would be too risky.

oh and the last time we played milner (correct me if im wrong) in midfield, he got a red card.

Alright, calm down. Didn't realise we had a master tactician amongst our ranks.
Perhaps you're right though. I just thought it would be nice to see Yaya in a more advanced role.
Maybe a 4-2-3-1 would work better -

Milner, Yaya
Navas, Aguero, Silva

- as our midfield

 

[JJCMCFC]

I've been somewhat disappointed by him. No matter what any one says, there is no way this guy was worth £30 million. He's got a decent touch, a decent pass, and is pretty good at breaking up attacks before they happen, but he gives very little protection to the back four and is very lightweight and I don't think I've noted a single outstanding attribute.

I know you've all heard this before but "we should never have got rid of Barry".

However, I think Ferna could be a very good player in the BPL once he's settled in a little bit, but for now, why not play Milner just in front of the back four? For me he's like Barry V:2.0. He's effort can't be faulted, his tackling is sublime, he'd cover the back four, has strength and pace (well, more than Barry) and his passing is sublime.

For me the Midfield should be:
CDM: Milner
RM: Navas
LM: Silva
CAM: Yaya Toure

The other advantage of this is pushing Yaya into a more effective attacking position.

Milner's passing never struck me as sublime. The effort yes, he tackling yes, the cover yes, strength yes. But he's actually one of the slower players on the team if you watch him carefully. Has no real acceleration. He beats his man on the outside mostly via tricks/dribbling. And Fernandinho beats hm there as well. I'm not saying that Milner can't do a job in front of the back four, but it would be similar to De Jong, and not Barry. Simply lacks passing ability.

I would say his passing is pretty good. Not just short passing, but this goal vs Villa shows his long passing and finishing ability. If you hadn't guessed by now, I'm a big fan of Milner haha

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[Georgian Maestro]

I've been somewhat disappointed by him. No matter what any one says, there is no way this guy was worth £30 million. He's got a decent touch, a decent pass, and is pretty good at breaking up attacks before they happen, but he gives very little protection to the back four and is very lightweight and I don't think I've noted a single outstanding attribute.

I know you've all heard this before but "we should never have got rid of Barry".

However, I think Ferna could be a very good player in the BPL once he's settled in a little bit, but for now, why not play Milner just in front of the back four? For me he's like Barry V:2.0. He's effort can't be faulted, his tackling is sublime, he'd cover the back four, has strength and pace (well, more than Barry) and his passing is sublime.
For me the Midfield should be:
CDM: Milner
RM: Navas
LM: Silva
CAM: Yaya Toure

The other advantage of this is pushing Yaya into a more effective attacking position.

He can't play there because his touch is poor, his intelligence to play that role is not there from what i've seen and his passing is far from sublime

 

[bluethunder]

I've been somewhat disappointed by him. No matter what any one says, there is no way this guy was worth £30 million. He's got a decent touch, a decent pass, and is pretty good at breaking up attacks before they happen, but he gives very little protection to the back four and is very lightweight and I don't think I've noted a single outstanding attribute.

I know you've all heard this before but "we should never have got rid of Barry".

However, I think Ferna could be a very good player in the BPL once he's settled in a little bit, but for now, why not play Milner just in front of the back four? For me he's like Barry V:2.0. He's effort can't be faulted, his tackling is sublime, he'd cover the back four, has strength and pace (well, more than Barry) and his passing is sublime.

For me the Midfield should be:
CDM: Milner
RM: Navas
LM: Silva
CAM: Yaya Toure

The other advantage of this is pushing Yaya into a more effective attacking position.

the fact that you propose this line up shows to me that you have very little knowledge of football.

you cannot possibly play that diamond with navas on the right, it would have to be a player that can both defend and attack.

you can't even play david silva on the left of a diamond formation, it would be too risky.

oh and the last time we played milner (correct me if im wrong) in midfield, he got a red card.

Alright, calm down. Didn't realise we had a master tactician amongst our ranks.
Perhaps you're right though. I just thought it would be nice to see Yaya in a more advanced role.
Maybe a 4-2-3-1 would work better -

Milner, Yaya
Navas, Aguero, Silva

- as our midfield

we'd be very slow team. we wouldnt be able to play a high line.

btw, how is milners long passing like ?

fernandinho can cross the ball from the middle of thte park to the wings with great accuracy, i dont think milner can do that.

 

[blink922]

we'd be very slow team. we wouldnt be able to play a high line.

btw, how is milners long passing like ?

fernandinho can cross the ball from the middle of thte park to the wings with great accuracy, i dont think milner can do that.

Suppose you don't remember his pass/goal in the Villa 4-1 a few years back.

 

[mammutly]

we'd be very slow team. we wouldnt be able to play a high line.

btw, how is milners long passing like ?

fernandinho can cross the ball from the middle of thte park to the wings with great accuracy, i dont think milner can do that.

Suppose you don't remember his pass/goal in the Villa 4-1 a few years back.

Milner is a great long passer.

 

[mancity5]

I've been somewhat disappointed by him. No matter what any one says, there is no way this guy was worth £30 million. He's got a decent touch, a decent pass, and is pretty good at breaking up attacks before they happen, but he gives very little protection to the back four and is very lightweight and I don't think I've noted a single outstanding attribute.

I know you've all heard this before but "we should never have got rid of Barry".

However, I think Ferna could be a very good player in the BPL once he's settled in a little bit, but for now, why not play Milner just in front of the back four? For me he's like Barry V:2.0. He's effort can't be faulted, his tackling is sublime, he'd cover the back four, has strength and pace (well, more than Barry) and his passing is sublime.

For me the Midfield should be:
CDM: Milner
RM: Navas
LM: Silva
CAM: Yaya Toure

The other advantage of this is pushing Yaya into a more effective attacking position.

What the fook is the BPL ?

 

[mammutly]

if you been following this thread you'd know that a few posters been very critical of fernandinho.

one stupid poster even said that fellaini is a much better player.

every other day some loser makes a negative comment.

Negative comment doesn't make someone stupid or a loser. Fellani at Everton was a class player, but very different from Fernandinho.

I don't think Fernandinho is the superstar some people make out, doesn't mean I don't think he's decent.

Funny this- You are doing the exact same thing you have accused others of. True, just because you think he has some faults doesn't mean you hate him. nor does someone thinking he is an upgrade over Barry or Garcia, mean they think he is a superstar.

I can see what you mean. Point taken

All I would say in my defence is that there are actually a fair few comments about Fernandinho's alleged brilliance in this thread.

 

[JJCMCFC]

I've been somewhat disappointed by him. No matter what any one says, there is no way this guy was worth £30 million. He's got a decent touch, a decent pass, and is pretty good at breaking up attacks before they happen, but he gives very little protection to the back four and is very lightweight and I don't think I've noted a single outstanding attribute.

I know you've all heard this before but "we should never have got rid of Barry".

However, I think Ferna could be a very good player in the BPL once he's settled in a little bit, but for now, why not play Milner just in front of the back four? For me he's like Barry V:2.0. He's effort can't be faulted, his tackling is sublime, he'd cover the back four, has strength and pace (well, more than Barry) and his passing is sublime.

For me the Midfield should be:
CDM: Milner
RM: Navas
LM: Silva
CAM: Yaya Toure

The other advantage of this is pushing Yaya into a more effective attacking position.

What the fook is the BPL ?

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we'd be very slow team. we wouldnt be able to play a high line.

btw, how is milners long passing like ?

fernandinho can cross the ball from the middle of thte park to the wings with great accuracy, i dont think milner can do that.

Suppose you don't remember his pass/goal in the Villa 4-1 a few years back.

Milner is a great long passer.

^ My point exactly

 

[berniethebusman]

As much as i respect Milner I'd have him nowhere near the middle of the pitch his passing for me is way too erractic.

 

[Burtonblue]

An upgrade on Barry for me.
Intelligent in the same way but much more mobile.
Seems to have come in for some stick from elements of the media for no reason I can see.
Quickens our central midfield play and gives our back 4 essential cover.
Top player.

Dont see how his cover has been any better than that of Barry's, we have conceded a lot this season through a lack of midfield cover.

It's simply because the defensive line does not yet meet pellegrini's demands of playing high upfield, esp. in awaygames. At home we seem confident enough. Therefore it looks like Fernandinho doesn't cover the defence too well. It's simply because he needs to fill too big a gap that often appears between midfield and the backline. It will come good, and when it does you'll see fernandinho's strenght in breaking up play and in an instant put us on the attack. That is where Barry held us back (too slow and one-tempo), evenso De Jong (always laying the ball back or sideways).

Totally agree with this.
The key for me Fernandinho is much quicker than Barry especially when it comes to moving the ball in midfield. The combination of Barry and Yaya in the middle made us epically pedestrian at times.
Fernandinho may be no better than Barry as a cover player, but is much more dynamic going forward. He will become the heartbeat of the team.

 

[BlueDejong]

Beast ! Best midfielder in the EPL !!

 

[nmc]

I thought he was excellent today. Maybe he is getting the pace of the game in England.