Ferran Soriano & Txiki Begiristain

[GaudinoMotors]

We also don't know that Dinho might come good again will that make him a good signing again

Maybe he will but I don't think you can argue he hasn't looked like a £32m player this season and neither has Mangala.

He is knackered along with Zabba Kompany to much football

Zabba isn't knackered - he plays his best football when he is playing every week. His loss of form is down to the uncertainty of rotation.

 

[Eccles Blue]

Maybe he will but I don't think you can argue he hasn't looked like a £32m player this season and neither has Mangala.

He is knackered along with Zabba Kompany to much football

Zabba isn't knackered - he plays his best football when he is playing every week. His loss of form is down to the uncertainty of rotation.

They all need continuity. Zabba, Kompany and even Mangala. My son, granted a Liverpool supporter, said to me yesterday after watching our game that Kompany needs support, he was covering for other people. He said that having watched a lot of our matches as well as their own, Kompany hasn't deteriorated it is the fact that he (K) doesn't seem to be able to trust the ones who are supposed to be playing alongside him because the 'understanding' isn't there as it was last season and the season before. (JOHO) Continuity.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

He is knackered along with Zabba Kompany to much football

Zabba isn't knackered - he plays his best football when he is playing every week. His loss of form is down to the uncertainty of rotation.

They all need continuity. Zabba, Kompany and even Mangala. My son, granted a Liverpool supporter, said to me yesterday after watching our game that Kompany needs support, he was covering for other people. He said that having watched a lot of our matches as well as their own, Kompany hasn't deteriorated it is the fact that he (K) doesn't seem to be able to trust the ones who are supposed to be playing alongside him because the 'understanding' isn't there as it was last season and the season before. (JOHO) Continuity.

bingo

 

[Tbilisi]

He is knackered along with Zabba Kompany to much football

Zabba isn't knackered - he plays his best football when he is playing every week. His loss of form is down to the uncertainty of rotation.

They all need continuity. Zabba, Kompany and even Mangala. My son, granted a Liverpool supporter, said to me yesterday after watching our game that Kompany needs support, he was covering for other people. He said that having watched a lot of our matches as well as their own, Kompany hasn't deteriorated it is the fact that he (K) doesn't seem to be able to trust the ones who are supposed to be playing alongside him because the 'understanding' isn't there as it was last season and the season before. (JOHO) Continuity.

Think VK also comes out of defence to win the ball in the absence of a ball winning midfielder.........and people still think getting rid of De Jong was a good idea.Will never understand that.

That said,what have you been doing to allow your son to be a Liverpool fan?! ;)

 

[Marvin]

He is knackered along with Zabba Kompany to much football

Zabba isn't knackered - he plays his best football when he is playing every week. His loss of form is down to the uncertainty of rotation.

They all need continuity. Zabba, Kompany and even Mangala. My son, granted a Liverpool supporter, said to me yesterday after watching our game that Kompany needs support, he was covering for other people. He said that having watched a lot of our matches as well as their own, Kompany hasn't deteriorated it is the fact that he (K) doesn't seem to be able to trust the ones who are supposed to be playing alongside him because the 'understanding' isn't there as it was last season and the season before. (JOHO) Continuity.

Don't bother trying to rationalise their game. They are not bothered which is why we are where we are

Players like Kompany and Yaya Toure have allowed their intensity levels to drop way below where they were

Rotation has got nothing to do with it. They play with each other day after day

 

[Eccles Blue]

Zabba isn't knackered - he plays his best football when he is playing every week. His loss of form is down to the uncertainty of rotation.

They all need continuity. Zabba, Kompany and even Mangala. My son, granted a Liverpool supporter, said to me yesterday after watching our game that Kompany needs support, he was covering for other people. He said that having watched a lot of our matches as well as their own, Kompany hasn't deteriorated it is the fact that he (K) doesn't seem to be able to trust the ones who are supposed to be playing alongside him because the 'understanding' isn't there as it was last season and the season before. (JOHO) Continuity.

Think VK also comes out of defence to win the ball in the absence of a ball winning midfielder.........and people still think getting rid of De Jong was a good idea.Will never understand that.

That said,what have you been doing to allow your son to be a Liverpool fan?! ;)

I don't know, I'm a failure as a Mother!! Does it help that the other son supports City, albeit from Vancouver nowadays? He (the Canadian one) had a season card for years before he left as did his wife. They are bringing up my granddaughters in the same way!! So much so that they get up at ridiculous times of day to watch our matches. :-)

 

[robbieh]

These two are not going to get rid of Pellegrini unfortunately. He's the guy they scouted when they decided to get rid of Mancini. Sacking Manuel would suggest they have made a mistake.

What could happen if Khaldoon has some cojones is to off Txiki. His purchases have been nothing short of scandalous.

Instead of buying a whole heap of mediocrity we could have used the money to buy three quality purchases. Then we could have filled in the squad places with youngsters.

Another thing. De Jong and Barry were sold primarily because they were too slow and static. Two years on and we are still slow and static in the midfield area.

 

[BigOscar]

These two are not going to get rid of Pellegrini unfortunately. He's the guy they scouted when they decided to get rid of Mancini. Sacking Manuel would suggest they have made a mistake.

What could happen if Khaldoon has some cojones is to off Txiki. His purchases have been nothing short of scandalous.

Instead of buying a whole heap of mediocrity we could have used the money to buy three quality purchases. Then we could have filled in the squad places with youngsters.

That simply wasn't an option though, as we had so many players who we had no choice but replace. We've barely made a signing that wasn't a cheap replacement for some squad player who had to leave for one reason or another. (age, contract running out, wanting to leave). Out of the squad that won the league under Mancini, I think there is only two players from outside of the first 11 who are still at the club, both of whom are probably leaving this summer (Kolarov and Milner). We've had to use so much of our transfer budget on moderately priced squad players that we've not been able to invest in the quality gamechangers we've needed to reinvigorate the squad. We simply haven't had the youngsters to fill out the squad.

This next year should be different though, as we finally have academy players of a decent enough standard to fill 3 or 4 squad places. This is the year where we should be spending our budget on players who can go into the first 11 imo.

 

[flb]

These two are not going to get rid of Pellegrini unfortunately. He's the guy they scouted when they decided to get rid of Mancini. Sacking Manuel would suggest they have made a mistake.

What could happen if Khaldoon has some cojones is to off Txiki. His purchases have been nothing short of scandalous.

Instead of buying a whole heap of mediocrity we could have used the money to buy three quality purchases. Then we could have filled in the squad places with youngsters.

That simply wasn't an option though, as we had so many players who we had no choice but replace. We've barely made a signing that wasn't a cheap replacement for some squad player who had to leave for one reason or another. (age, contract running out, wanting to leave). Out of the squad that won the league under Mancini, I think there is only two players from outside of the first 11 who are still at the club, both of whom are probably leaving this summer (Kolarov and Milner). We've had to use so much of our transfer budget on moderately priced squad players that we've not been able to invest in the quality gamechangers we've needed to reinvigorate the squad. We simply haven't had the youngsters to fill out the squad.

This next year should be different though, as we finally have academy players of a decent enough standard to fill 3 or 4 squad places. This is the year where we should be spending our budget on players who can go into the first 11 imo.

Disagree fella, nothing wrong with Barry for another season, Ditto Lescott,certainly with the FFP restrictions and then theres the Nastasic mystery.

We have spent big on either ageing players or overpaid on players like Mangala.

We could have got Di Maria instead of Mangala and Fernando if we had just given Lescott and Barry another season.

The decision making on transfers is baffling tbh.

 

[BigOscar]

These two are not going to get rid of Pellegrini unfortunately. He's the guy they scouted when they decided to get rid of Mancini. Sacking Manuel would suggest they have made a mistake.

What could happen if Khaldoon has some cojones is to off Txiki. His purchases have been nothing short of scandalous.

Instead of buying a whole heap of mediocrity we could have used the money to buy three quality purchases. Then we could have filled in the squad places with youngsters.

That simply wasn't an option though, as we had so many players who we had no choice but replace. We've barely made a signing that wasn't a cheap replacement for some squad player who had to leave for one reason or another. (age, contract running out, wanting to leave). Out of the squad that won the league under Mancini, I think there is only two players from outside of the first 11 who are still at the club, both of whom are probably leaving this summer (Kolarov and Milner). We've had to use so much of our transfer budget on moderately priced squad players that we've not been able to invest in the quality gamechangers we've needed to reinvigorate the squad. We simply haven't had the youngsters to fill out the squad.

This next year should be different though, as we finally have academy players of a decent enough standard to fill 3 or 4 squad places. This is the year where we should be spending our budget on players who can go into the first 11 imo.

Disagree fella, nothing wrong with Barry for another season, Ditto Lescott,certainly with the FFP restrictions and then theres the Nastasic mystery.

We have spent big on either ageing players or overpaid on players like Mangala.

We could have got Di Maria instead of Mangala and Fernando if we had just given Lescott and Barry another season.

The decision making on transfers is baffling tbh.

Barry and Lescott are completely finished as top level footballers, we'd be absolutely appalling with them still as first team regulars. Can you honestly imagine Yaya and Barry playing togther still? Neither of them can move! Those two are actually the only first 11 players we've replaced and the only two to have serious money spent replacing them. I don't Nastasic as a mystery either, he's just not very good so got moved on.

For me, Mangala is a good choice, he is the right age and has all the attributes to be a huge part of our spine for the next 6-7 years. Once the team stops being an absolute shambles around him, he'll show just how good he is. Fernandinho is the one that I think was poor business. He's exactly the player we probably needed, but 5 years too old for the price we paid. If we were going to be making a huge investment replacing an ageing member of our spine, it seems odd to replace him with someone who was already 28.