Ferran Torres

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He is in our squad.

Yes, he is, but it's the "let's fook him off" attitude that bothers me about some of our fans, sometimes.

Stones can fook off before Zin and he would reach a similar market value.

Trouble is, I like Stones, but he's been a bit unlucky with his injuries and his decision making is similar to Zin's, more so, actually. Stones has a dedicated position he hasn't kicked on in. A bit more aggression and he'd be better as a midfielder(the opposite to Vinny's career).

Zin is NOT a left back, but he tries his best.

There's the difference.
 
Yes, he is, but it's the "let's fook him off" attitude that bothers me about some of our fans, sometimes.

Stones can fook off before Zin and he would reach a similar market value.

Trouble is, I like Stones, but he's been a bit unlucky with his injuries and his decision making is similar to Zin's, more so, actually. Stones has a dedicated position he hasn't kicked on in. A bit more aggression and he'd be better as a midfielder(the opposite to Vinny's career).

Zin is NOT a left back, but he tries his best.

There's the difference.
I have no great desire for Zinchenko to go. That said I think he should have a desire, he isn't going to be first choice in midfield, or left back for us. He's at an age now where he could establish himself in midfield at a very good level. imo he should be wanting to do that and we shouldn't stand in his way after serving us well.
 
I have no great desire for Zinchenko to go. That said I think he should have a desire, he isn't going to be first choice in midfield, or left back for us. He's at an age now where he could establish himself in midfield at a very good level. imo he should be wanting to do that and we shouldn't stand in his way after serving us well.

This I agree with.

I do think he's too happy to be a squad player and should be agitating for Gundo's position, at least. He clearly has the 'trust' of Pep to be on the left in a position he's not great in, so what he has to do to get a mid position I don't know!
 
This I agree with.

I do think he's too happy to be a squad player and should be agitating for Gundo's position, at least. He clearly has the 'trust' of Pep to be on the left in a position he's not great in, so what he has to do to get a mid position I don't know!

Probably Zinchenko is unlikely to be a starter in a title or European Cup potential winning team in his favoured position. He might just be enjoying his football and the group at City, and see this as his best realistic chance of winning trophies. The Ukrainian Delph (and I say that with respect, it's a brilliant thing to be)
 
Yes, he is, but it's the "let's fook him off" attitude that bothers me about some of our fans, sometimes.

Stones can fook off before Zin and he would reach a similar market value.

Trouble is, I like Stones, but he's been a bit unlucky with his injuries and his decision making is similar to Zin's, more so, actually. Stones has a dedicated position he hasn't kicked on in. A bit more aggression and he'd be better as a midfielder(the opposite to Vinny's career).

Zin is NOT a left back, but he tries his best.

There's the difference.
That’s why I caveated my original post by saying Zinchenko going would probably depend on a player coming available where we want or need a larger profit for the books to offset that transfer. Zinchenko would basically show as a £25m profit but Stones going for the same price wouldn’t because he’d still have a higher book value given we bought him for £50m, so he’ll have say £10m left to amortise.

I don’t mind Zinchenko, he tries hard and he’s a good technical player but unless he does move forward, which there’s no sign of him doing, then he is one of our left backs... and I would prefer a proper left back because he’s not good enough there, and with Mendy being susceptible to injury it needs addressing.

Anyway, to bring it back to Torres it looks like we’re trying to do something similar with Herrera to offset his cost because the €15m should show as pretty much all profit.
 
We wont pay more than £31.8m for him, seems a strange figure to come out with.
 
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