That's got nothing to do with modifying rules, it's the way UEFA have worked for at least the last 2 seasons and presumably more. If you directly qualify you don't need to submit your squad list before the start of September (give or take a day or two).George Hannah said:I'm only guessing here, but I don't think UEFA will wanting to modify the rules after the qualifying stages have begun.ColinLee said:These are the squad submission dates from last season :-Rolee said:Good point, are any of the sanctioned clubs involved in the qualifying stages?
18.13 List A has to be submitted by the following fixed deadlines:
a) 24 June 2013 (24.00 CET) for all matches in the first qualifying round;
b) 11 July 2013 (24.00 CET) for all matches in the second qualifying round;
c) 25 July 2013 (24.00 CET) for all matches in the third qualifying round;
d) 12 August 2013 (24.00 CET) for all matches in the play-offs;
e) 2 September 2013 (24.00 CET) for all further matches from the first match
in the group stage up to and including the final.
So i'd guess for us it'd be either the 1st or the 8th of September.
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles.../Regulations/01/94/62/34/1946234_DOWNLOAD.pdf
It's going to be a long summer.
Sunday it is then!!BringBackSwales said:I can't see it not being known to the clubs involved in the sanctions - City and PSG must surely know by now or certainly by the time the current transfer window opens
George Hannah said:Sunday it is then!!BringBackSwales said:I can't see it not being known to the clubs involved in the sanctions - City and PSG must surely know by now or certainly by the time the current transfer window opens
I'm only guessing here but I think you are perhaps not fully taking account of the novelty of squad reduction - it's breaking new ground and this will need to be reflected in the rules - which in turn would be expected to be fully in place before the competition - or even (as is pointed above) when the window opens.ColinLee said:That's got nothing to do with modifying rules, it's the way UEFA have worked for at least the last 2 seasons and presumably more. If you directly qualify you don't need to submit your squad list before the start of September (give or take a day or two).George Hannah said:I'm only guessing here, but I don't think UEFA will wanting to modify the rules after the qualifying stages have begun.ColinLee said:These are the squad submission dates from last season :-
So i'd guess for us it'd be either the 1st or the 8th of September.
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles.../Regulations/01/94/62/34/1946234_DOWNLOAD.pdf
It's going to be a long summer.
A.1.81. “home Grown Player” means a Player who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been
registered with any Club (or club) affiliated to the Football Association or the Football
Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three Seasons or 36 months prior to
his 21st birthday (or the end of the Season during which he turns 21) and for the purposes of
this definition of “Home Grown Player” a Season will be deemed to commence on the date
on which the first Transfer Window closes and expire on the date of the final League Match
of the Season;
18.10 A “club-trained player” is a player who, between the age of 15 (or the start of
the season during which he turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during
which he turns 21), and irrespective of his nationality and age, has been
registered with his current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire
seasons (i.e. a period starting with the first official match of the relevant
national championship and ending with the last official match of that relevant
national championship) or of 36 months.
now I've been down this road a few times and am still receiving therapy after saying things like thatBlueAnorak said:DEFINITIVE RULES ON WHAT COUNTS AS A HOMEGROWN PLAYER
Premier League Rule:
<a class="postlink" href="http://m.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/handbooks/premier-league-handbook-2013-14.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://m.premierleague.com/content/dam/ ... 013-14.pdf</a>
A.1.81. “home Grown Player” means a Player who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been
registered with any Club (or club) affiliated to the Football Association or the Football
Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three Seasons or 36 months prior to
his 21st birthday (or the end of the Season during which he turns 21) and for the purposes of
this definition of “Home Grown Player” a Season will be deemed to commence on the date
on which the first Transfer Window closes and expire on the date of the final League Match
of the Season;
UEFA Champions League Rules
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18.10 A “club-trained player” is a player who, between the age of 15 (or the start of
the season during which he turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during
which he turns 21), and irrespective of his nationality and age, has been
registered with his current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire
seasons (i.e. a period starting with the first official match of the relevant
national championship and ending with the last official match of that relevant
national championship) or of 36 months.
This means that in season 2014/15 Matija Nastasić (Age 21, birthday 28th March) will be classified as a Foreign Player for the purposes of the Premier League and Champions League Squad purposes. He is 2 months too old.
Perhaps I'm answering the wrong question then, but we can't submit a squad list until the window is shut since our part in the competition doesn't start until September? I'm not sure where that leaves the early qualifiers mind but that shouldn't affect us surely, reduced squad or not?George Hannah said:I'm only guessing here but I think you are perhaps not fully taking account of the novelty of squad reduction - it's breaking new ground and this will need to be reflected in the rules - which in turn would be expected to be fully in place before the competition - or even (as is pointed above) when the window opens.ColinLee said:That's got nothing to do with modifying rules, it's the way UEFA have worked for at least the last 2 seasons and presumably more. If you directly qualify you don't need to submit your squad list before the start of September (give or take a day or two).George Hannah said:I'm only guessing here, but I don't think UEFA will wanting to modify the rules after the qualifying stages have begun.
I think they will want the rules clear for everybody from the outset and of course everybody will not be happy whatever happens.ColinLee said:Perhaps I'm answering the wrong question then, but we can't submit a squad list until the window is shut since our part in the competition doesn't start until September? I'm not sure where that leaves the early qualifiers mind but that shouldn't affect us surely, reduced squad or not?George Hannah said:I'm only guessing here but I think you are perhaps not fully taking account of the novelty of squad reduction - it's breaking new ground and this will need to be reflected in the rules - which in turn would be expected to be fully in place before the competition - or even (as is pointed above) when the window opens.ColinLee said:That's got nothing to do with modifying rules, it's the way UEFA have worked for at least the last 2 seasons and presumably more. If you directly qualify you don't need to submit your squad list before the start of September (give or take a day or two).
ColinLee said:Perhaps I'm answering the wrong question then, but we can't submit a squad list until the window is shut since our part in the competition doesn't start until September? I'm not sure where that leaves the early qualifiers mind but that shouldn't affect us surely, reduced squad or not?George Hannah said:I'm only guessing here but I think you are perhaps not fully taking account of the novelty of squad reduction - it's breaking new ground and this will need to be reflected in the rules - which in turn would be expected to be fully in place before the competition - or even (as is pointed above) when the window opens.ColinLee said:That's got nothing to do with modifying rules, it's the way UEFA have worked for at least the last 2 seasons and presumably more. If you directly qualify you don't need to submit your squad list before the start of September (give or take a day or two).
George Hannah said:now I've been down this road a few times and am still receiving therapy after saying things like that