FFP - Why I believe we failed

[andyhinch]

oh and well done platini you slimy little fuck, every season ticket, every pie, every drink will have to be upped to add to the coffers to meet your demands. whilst you lord it on freebies proper working class fans suffer because of your pathetic agenda. I can see your plan, you want it unaffordable to attend games for us normal folk so rich fat **** tourists can take our place. the passion will die and our trophy attainment could suffer. well fuck you you fucking waste of skin, we are man city and we fight to the end.

btw any journo's reading this send it to the little ****.

Am I sensing your not happy?

 

[bluenova]

It will be worse for the club if they think we are a soft touch and pull the same shit next year. If we have done nothing wrong why lay down and let the whip hand of the cartel do what they wish with us.

Now we know where we stand and there's transparency, the cards are on the table so we know we'll comply from next year going forward.

In the bigger picture this is just a jab in a 12 round fight, we'll still move on and win things, fuck em

there should no need for compliance though. where was the compliance for the last 20 years when the same clubs creamed money from the completion? where was the ffp as they got richer and richer by a cartel that until we came along was as closed shop as closed shop could be.
why now? why now as we can lure players, outbid the cartel clubs, win bigger tv rights and everything associated with a successful club? why now?

because its Manchester city that's why. uefa couldn't give a flying fuck what psg and co do. they have only spanked them cos even platini has to save some face if possible. to him its worth ruffling a few feathers in France to ensure the cartel is repaired and back to the status quo asap.

dress it up all you like. compliance this, bargaining that, even talk about legal challenges but the bottom line is this is an attack on Manchester city football club. ffp would have had the tiniest bit of credence had it been brought in the moment roman arrived at chelski. uefa's silence on chelsea for the last ten years has been deafening.

Some form of FFP was proposed before the takeover, and at one point the focus was on debt - until, depending on who you believe it was decided that debt was ok if covered by revenue (as with most big businesses), or until the big clubs worked out that FFP would actually be handy for them to prevent newcomers crashing the party.

UEFA's 'silence' involved Platini accusing Chelsea and the Rags of cheating because their success was based on debt.

We've been screwed over by being bracketed with PSG, but it's clear we've fudged it in some way - even if we did think that UEFA would agree to the fudge. We're the most successful English club, we've got a squad worth a lot of money, and we've got a huge amount of revenue coming in. If FFP was designed specifically to target City, then it's come too late. It will stop others joining us, but right now it's a barn door being shut after the sky blue horse has bolted.

Paranoia is a killer. It's a sunny day - so smile and let's get on with our lives.

 

[Marvin]

Truly hate this ffp bollocks. Hate the fact (though i understand it) that we have had to basically say we are "financial cheats" because it benifits us in the long run but i suppose we all hold are tongues at work because its wise to do so. This Dupont lawyer, hope he brings the whole thing down, if not i can see one thing happening in the years to come. Some football team, Heerenveen, Bordeaux, Parma, Frankfurt, Celta Vigo pick any decent sized club you want will eventually have a couple of better than expected years on the pitch and then will be prevented from taking the next step and unlike us they won't have got into the City before the drawbridge went up. Some player will want to sign but their owner won't be able to spend his own money. Say a foreign team are in a posistion like Southampton are this year, sign some big names, their best players might stay, don't sign them names and thier best players might leave, shirley there is no better example of stunting growth in football clubs than that.Their owner will make a stand and no matter how you look at ffp it stops teams being able to take that step, to grow finacially, which will never stand up in court.

All true. But also look at Dortmund and Atletico. They have succeeded in their Leagues without spending huge amounts

UEFA and the top clubs will find a new threat and new issue soon enough. It was first Chelsea, then City so Utd and Co said enough is enough and came up with FFP to keep them out. It will evolve. Tomorrow there'll be a new issue

 

[Danamy]

It will be worse for the club if they think we are a soft touch and pull the same shit next year. If we have done nothing wrong why lay down and let the whip hand of the cartel do what they wish with us.

Now we know where we stand and there's transparency, the cards are on the table so we know we'll comply from next year going forward.

In the bigger picture this is just a jab in a 12 round fight, we'll still move on and win things, fuck em

there should no need for compliance though. where was the compliance for the last 20 years when the same clubs creamed money from the completion? where was the ffp as they got richer and richer by a cartel that until we came along was as closed shop as closed shop could be.
why now? why now as we can lure players, outbid the cartel clubs, win bigger tv rights and everything associated with a successful club? why now?

because its Manchester city that's why. uefa couldn't give a flying fuck what psg and co do. they have only spanked them cos even platini has to save some face if possible. to him its worth ruffling a few feathers in France to ensure the cartel is repaired and back to the status quo asap.

dress it up all you like. compliance this, bargaining that, even talk about legal challenges but the bottom line is this is an attack on Manchester city football club. ffp would have had the tiniest bit of credence had it been brought in the moment roman arrived at chelski. uefa's silence on chelsea for the last ten years has been deafening.

An attack on Manchester City Football Club?

The list of clubs affected in this period: Paris St-Germain, Zenit St Petersburg, Rubin Kazan, Anzhi Makhachkala, Galatasaray, Trabzonspor, Bursaspor and Levski Sofia.

If anything after this blip ffp should work in our favour and it'll affect other teams more than us, when our academy starts churning out talented youth so we can sell them on or put them in the first team with no need for transfers?........we'll be generating our own money, our cash cow (so to speak)

Will it affect us, will it fuck!!

Take your tin foil hat off de niro

 

[jrb]

I have to agree.

FFPR, especially next season, is nothing more than a blip. An inconvenient barrier that will slowly crumble, and be blown away by the(Manchester City Football Club) prevailing winds.

Money won't be a problem in the future, trust me. What's already in place and what's planned ;-) will see to that.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Take your tin foil hat off de niro

But you have to wonder. The Sheikh comes along and they bring in FFP despite the fact that clubs like Chelsea have been spending unlimited amounts for a few years and La Liga is totally unbalanced.

UEFA want to tackle debt, yet a club with no debt is the one constantly highlighted.

When the crunch comes, they change the rules so that we fail, while all the time we thought we'd pass, and can do nothing about it.

 

[cleavers]

Take your tin foil hat off de niro

But you have to wonder. The Sheikh comes along and they bring in FFP despite the fact that clubs like Chelsea have been spending unlimited amounts for a few years and La Liga is totally unbalanced.

Before abramovic, the top 3 here were under no threat to qualify in europe, and at that time chelsea looked like it was probably a one off in england (at least to the degree they could spend), so nothing was really made of it, apart from a few gripes within england.

When we (or in fact whoever SM ultimately took over) arrived one of those cosy red three were in danger of not qualifying in europe, as 5 into 4 doesn't go, so they (with chelsea rather ironically jumping on their coat tails) went looking for a sympathetic ear in UEFA, and got one, but it was too little too late, and even now they want to look tough, rather than act tough.

 

[waspish]

oh and well done platini you slimy little fuck, every season ticket, every pie, every drink will have to be upped to add to the coffers to meet your demands. whilst you lord it on freebies proper working class fans suffer because of your pathetic agenda. I can see your plan, you want it unaffordable to attend games for us normal folk so rich fat **** tourists can take our place. the passion will die and our trophy attainment could suffer. well fuck you you fucking waste of skin, we are man city and we fight to the end.

btw any journo's reading this send it to the little ****.

Totally agree my season ticket has gone up £130 in 2 seasons beer gone up pies gone up I'm just surprise we don't get charge for having a piss!

 

[Centurions]

So is anyone going to appeal the sanctions? Has there been any official comment from Arsenal etc? I have not seen anything. I believe clubs have 10 days to lodge an appeal.

Next season we have to deal with a suspended fine, and CL squad restrictions. That's not too bad - as you would expect for a 1st "offence".

Next time we have agreed that for this season we must incur a loss no greater than 20m Euros. Surely we will not have agreed that unless we are confident we can do that. Therefore we take a PR hit, and disruption of next seasons Champions League campaign, but if we are breaking even now, then the issue is behind us.

Time to move on..........providing Arsenal, or someone else does not appeal.

It will be interesting if anyone else, in future years, falls foul of this regime. I suspect it will be quietly dropped.

I've been wondering that but I suspect that any club who did put in a complaint would be taken aside by UEFA and asked nicely to retract it. We've come to an agreement with UEFA and we both just want to move on from this. If UEFA did have to take it on board and increase our sanctions I suspect that it may turn out to be the straw that broke the camels back.

 

[nellyonthewing]

I believe we have reached an 'accomodation' with Eufa. We've accepted a public slap on the wrists whilst making the point that we could have 'successfully 'challenged the legality of the decision.
This should stand us in good stead with Uefa now as we have saved them a huge embarrasement , but in my experience most european organisations are just a feeding ground for corruption.