FIFA 12 demo

GStar said:
Lumberjack Pete7 said:
The new defending is pretty awful.
Not awfull, difficult and much more 'real'.


This.

Damocles said:
Its funny that people are boasting about how great they are, when they turn off the hard bit.

Personally, I like the new system as it's much more realistic, surely that isthepoint?

Also this.
 
GStar said:
Lumberjack Pete7 said:
The new defending is pretty awful.
I played with a few mates 1 v 1 on the demo, online is going to be very hard,one mistimed tackle with a centre back means any player with a bit of pace has so much room to run into its criminal. the AI doesn't give you a good jist of what human players are like because it just passes around the back 4 for the sake of passing .

Not awfull, difficult and much more 'real'.

its 'more real' but against a human opponent it is very difficult to maintain the focus to time every challenge. its defiantly not a pick up and play game for online play. Kind of a shame really because i could play fifa 11 for hours at a time but this one i don't think i will with this title.
 
To the people who prefer the old tackling, do you want to hold down one button on CoD and everyone else dies? Do you also use auto-aim on shooting games?
 
I'm just downloading it now, taking forever

What's the craic then with everyone moaning??

I take it they've made it harder and people don't like it??

The old one was decent enough but the defending was a piece of piss, just keep hold of X and you couldn't go wrong

I hope they've sorted the long range shooting out a bit, i like to at least have a bit of a chance of scoring when i let fly from 35 yards out with someone who can actually score from that range
 
AntonDonJuan said:
I'm just downloading it now, taking forever

What's the craic then with everyone moaning??

I take it they've made it harder and people don't like it??

The old one was decent enough but the defending was a piece of piss, just keep hold of X and you couldn't go wrong

I hope they've sorted the long range shooting out a bit, i like to at least have a bit of a chance of scoring when i let fly from 35 yards out with someone who can actually score from that range

Funny enough, i know a few mates who used the hold X as there defending tactic. Found it did fuck all but open spaces for me to attack.
 
I've read that you can put the controls back to how they were on FIFA 11 for defending so on the PS3, what have they put what defending pressing X was too this year?
 
Anthony_18 said:
I've read that you can put the controls back to how they were on FIFA 11 for defending so on the PS3, what have they put what defending pressing X was too this year?

If you mean calling a secondary player for pressure, RB or R1.
 
Are you on the Ps3 or xbox so i don't get confused? If you mean the X for ps3, which is A for xbox. It's a contain button, follows the players i guess. Otherwise it's sliding tackle if you mean x for xbox and [] for ps3.

Does that make sense?
 
Anthony_18 said:
I've read that you can put the controls back to how they were on FIFA 11 for defending so on the PS3, what have they put what defending pressing X was too this year?

You can revert to the old controls however from what I've heard you will not be allowed this option online and will need to use the new controls. Could be wrong though.

On the new controls, holding X (or A on Xbox) just simply follows the opposition player with the ball but doesn't actually tackle them.
 
You can download ALL of the FIFA12 Ultimate Team player ratings from here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SLA5YZL0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SLA5YZL0</a>
 
Anthony_18 said:
Ahhh I see so what does X do this year when defending?

It's the ball watching button, hold X and instead of nicking the ball of a player infront of you, you dance aimlessly about like a **** watching the player take you on, also if you hold R1 you can make another player do exactly the same thing with you whilst the opposition happily passes it about 50 times before making some shit pass along the box scoring a shit tap in goal......

Oh and if you press [] your player does some shit out leg streched thing then stumbles like a ****....
 
Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot said:
Anthony_18 said:
Ahhh I see so what does X do this year when defending?

It's the ball watching button, hold X and instead of nicking the ball of a player infront of you, you dance aimlessly about like a **** watching the player take you on, also if you hold R1 you can make another player do exactly the same thing with you whilst the opposition happily passes it about 50 times before making some shit pass along the box scoring a shit tap in goal......

Oh and if you press [] your player does some shit out leg streched thing then stumbles like a ****....

described perfect.
 
Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot said:
Anthony_18 said:
Ahhh I see so what does X do this year when defending?

It's the ball watching button, hold X and instead of nicking the ball of a player infront of you, you dance aimlessly about like a **** watching the player take you on, also if you hold R1 you can make another player do exactly the same thing with you whilst the opposition happily passes it about 50 times before making some shit pass along the box scoring a shit tap in goal......

Oh and if you press [] your player does some shit out leg streched thing then stumbles like a ****....

I agree. It's well annoying when I'm not instantly great at a game that I've not played much and I don't own.

For the record, this is the exact reason why your games now use content instead of difficulty for depth.

Also, the tactical defending is a great addition. The X button positions your player to contain the attacker; that is, running backwards until you use the right moment to use O to nick the ball. Some people are used to the "auto-tackle" system and are pissed that they are getting thumped because the computer no longer does most of the work for them.
 
Damocles said:
Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot said:
Anthony_18 said:
Ahhh I see so what does X do this year when defending?

It's the ball watching button, hold X and instead of nicking the ball of a player infront of you, you dance aimlessly about like a **** watching the player take you on, also if you hold R1 you can make another player do exactly the same thing with you whilst the opposition happily passes it about 50 times before making some shit pass along the box scoring a shit tap in goal......

Oh and if you press [] your player does some shit out leg streched thing then stumbles like a ****....

I agree. It's well annoying when I'm not instantly great at a game that I've not played much and I don't own.

For the record, this is the exact reason why your games now use content instead of difficulty for depth.

Also, the tactical defending is a great addition. The X button positions your player to contain the attacker; that is, running backwards until you use the right moment to use O to nick the ball. Some people are used to the "auto-tackle" system and are pissed that they are getting thumped because the computer no longer does most of the work for them.

Its not that at all, probably when I play my mates it'll be different but so far against the computer the AI is shit, as soon as I get the ball I have 3 players marking me tightly, but when the computer has it my players think fuck it why mark anyone I'll just leave it wide open which in the end causes me to run around like a twat with 1 player whilst I watch the computer pass it backwards then forwards then backwards ect....

When defending from the back of a player you hold X and all he does is run behind him you press [] he stumbles like a twat you press O you get a foul regardless of winning the ball or not it's fuckin stupid and frustrating....

I've always been mediocre on FIFA games it's not about liking it cause your good at it I was average on FIFA 11 but still some aspects of the game pissed me off like taking a goal kick short and giving it away.

FIFA 12 has just introduced some fuckin pad smashing aspects into it which puts me off buying it as my FIFA rage is to much to handle, when I pass the ball short god forbid it goes to the right man, I try containing a player and the ball has travled 30 yards up field before the guy has even got to his man, won't slide tackle won't pressure tackle....

Is it realistic that Kieran Gibbs can out muscle Carlos Tevez? or beat Sergio Aguero for pace?? No it's just a fuckin another way to frustrate people causing them to smash their PS3 Pads...

This is proving my EA Sports getting a split for every PS3 pad sold theory even more right....
 
Damocles said:
You can download ALL of the FIFA12 Ultimate Team player ratings from here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SLA5YZL0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SLA5YZL0</a>

text file :\ Attribute1,2,3,4,5,6 aren't very informative :(
 
Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot said:
Its not that at all, probably when I play my mates it'll be different but so far against the computer the AI is shit, as soon as I get the ball I have 3 players marking me tightly, but when the computer has it my players think fuck it why mark anyone I'll just leave it wide open which in the end causes me to run around like a twat with 1 player whilst I watch the computer pass it backwards then forwards then backwards ect....

That's sort of the point of tactical defending. The game has changed completely. It used to be about pace of attack similar to an arcade game, now it's about the ability to exploit space and shape. Your players shouldn't be marking anyone, your players should be holding their defensive shape. You should look at how often you are changing player, if you run a guy even a few yards out of position, the game will punish you. Also, you need to be patient about tackling and pick your moment. Also, you should probably pass to a guy in space rather than a guy who has 3 players around him :)

When defending from the back of a player you hold X and all he does is run behind him you press [] he stumbles like a twat you press O you get a foul regardless of winning the ball or not it's fuckin stupid and frustrating....

If you're behind an attacker and he is running, use the O button to grab him a few times to give you the ability to get goalside. Once you are goalside, you can use L2 to contain him until support arrives (that is, unless you find a good opportunity to press O and nick the ball).

I've always been mediocre on FIFA games it's not about liking it cause your good at it I was average on FIFA 11 but still some aspects of the game pissed me off like taking a goal kick short and giving it away.

You've hit upon one of my problems with this and every other FIFA game; the opposition constantly presses your team anywhere outside of the first 25 yards. This is highly annoying and unrealistic.

FIFA 12 has just introduced some fuckin pad smashing aspects into it which puts me off buying it as my FIFA rage is to much to handle, when I pass the ball short god forbid it goes to the right man, I try containing a player and the ball has travled 30 yards up field before the guy has even got to his man, won't slide tackle won't pressure tackle....

Is it realistic that Kieran Gibbs can out muscle Carlos Tevez? or beat Sergio Aguero for pace?? No it's just a fuckin another way to frustrate people causing them to smash their PS3 Pads...

This is proving my EA Sports getting a split for every PS3 pad sold theory even more right....

At times, Gibbs can outmuscle Tevez and beat Aguero for pace. Thinking that something will happen 100% of the time is a bit daft.

-- Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:02 pm --

Jackson-ctid said:
Damocles said:
You can download ALL of the FIFA12 Ultimate Team player ratings from here:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SLA5YZL0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SLA5YZL0</a>

text file :\ Attribute1,2,3,4,5,6 aren't very informative :(

1 - Pace
2 - Shot
3 - Pass
4 - Dribble
5 - Defend
6 - Header<br /><br />-- Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:05 pm --<br /><br /><a class="postlink" href="http://fifa12.usr.sh/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://fifa12.usr.sh/</a>

ClubID 10
 
I've found on tactical defending , i can't make a tackle until the player reaches 20-22 yards from the net.

and when they do 80% of the shots have gone in, or they slip a pass through and always score.

so that's why i turned it off.

legacy defending you do it all yourself, so why is it easier? it's not.

i get caught out of position more on legacy defending, but i find it better to defend with cause i can actually make a tackle.

so it's realistic that none of your players done get a foot in 20 yards from goal?

it's more realistic when you do ALL the work, and not let the computer do some of it.
 

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