mancityvstoke
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So Wythenshawe is still there then?
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jimharri
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Unfortunately; yes!mancityvstoke said:So Wythenshawe is still there then?
*sits back and waits*
M18CTID
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Tricky_Trev said:He gave the cabin crew a letter to pass to the pilot. What a prick.
He should go down for life for that. Imagine if it got to the stage that they felt they had to shoot it down? The clown has basically endangered the lives of hundreds of people.
bluetonium
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We live right under the flight path about 3 miles as the crow flies from the airport, I'm away at the moment and only just found out, but just spoken to the missus and she was bricking it (sometimes in this uber-connected media driven society, live updates are not such a good thing!), grabbed the little one and stayed inside hoping it would be dealt with, what more can you do really? Hope they lead it off over the moors somewhere to explode it?
Would not like to be that guy right now. Banned from flying, hefty fine and hopefully some jail time too, and all well deserved. Thankfully the authorities seem to have handled this in the best way.
Would not like to be that guy right now. Banned from flying, hefty fine and hopefully some jail time too, and all well deserved. Thankfully the authorities seem to have handled this in the best way.
crazyg
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First heard (but not saw) the Typhoon as it went out to escort the Qatar plane in. My first thought was what the hell was that - it's not a commercial jet - it must be a fighter on afterburner.
Two minutes later, the Qatar plane came into view, flanked by the Typhoon. Just past my house, the Typhoon climbed away and disappeared into the clouds.
First time I've since one "live" since I went to Farnborough a few years ago.
Two minutes later, the Qatar plane came into view, flanked by the Typhoon. Just past my house, the Typhoon climbed away and disappeared into the clouds.
First time I've since one "live" since I went to Farnborough a few years ago.
Gelsons Dad said:chris85mcfc said:Gelsons Dad said:Yes. The Russians shot down a Korean jet just for the suspicion it was spying! So far in this scenario it hasn't happened but I'm quite sure if it came to it, it would. Without doubt in the US or Israel and probably in the UK. If it didn't the first time it would the second.
So how is this decision actually made?
The fighter jet was circling the plane but what is it looking for before it makes the decision?
Must be hard to base a decision like that on what a pilot has said, especially at about 400mph!!!
I mean how would the fighter jet know if it was a legitimate bomb threat or a hoax?
The fast jet is a tool. Command and control is done elsewhere.
But who would be actually authorised to make the decision to kill all the passengers in a situation like today, in this country?
I imaginie it would be the prime minister if it was a film. But is that how it would actually work? Cameron on a hot line to some plane control centre?
lazza
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Good to see that the BBC have managed find a way to mention the rags....
Well, that's a relief... although I'm surprised there's no reminder about Munich included...
BBC said:A plane carrying the Manchester United team back from Florida, where they played in a pre-season friendly tournament, landed on time.
Well, that's a relief... although I'm surprised there's no reminder about Munich included...
bluebrickroad
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Gelsons Dad said:tidyman said:Gelsons Dad said:If you just want to blow up a jet you don't need to tell them there is a device. You just use it.
Claiming there is a device on board is a threat which is then used to do something else. That something else may be worse than blowing up the jet. A fighter escort gives the possibility of choosing the lesser of two evils. The guy on the trigger has a tough job but the guy making the decision has an even tougher one.
Who would make the final decision to blow up a plane with hundreds of civilians on it?
Has it ever happened?
Yes. The Russians shot down a Korean jet just for the suspicion it was spying! So far in this scenario it hasn't happened but I'm quite sure if it came to it, it would. Without doubt in the US or Israel and probably in the UK. If it didn't the first time it would the second.
And don't let us forget about the "septics" who shot down an Iranian Airbus over the Red Sea in 1988 killing 290 innocent civilians. A tragedy which the u.s. has yet to apologise for.
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tidyman said:But who would be actually authorised to make the decision to kill all the passengers in a situation like today, in this country?
I imaginie it would be the prime minister if it was a film. But is that how it would actually work? Cameron on a hot line to some plane control centre?
Rupert Murdoch.
Gelsons Dad
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bluebrickroad said:Gelsons Dad said:tidyman said:Who would make the final decision to blow up a plane with hundreds of civilians on it?
Has it ever happened?
Yes. The Russians shot down a Korean jet just for the suspicion it was spying! So far in this scenario it hasn't happened but I'm quite sure if it came to it, it would. Without doubt in the US or Israel and probably in the UK. If it didn't the first time it would the second.
And don't let us forget about the "septics" who shot down an Iranian Airbus over the Red Sea in 1988 killing 290 innocent civilians. A tragedy which the u.s. has yet to apologise for.
I was trying to keep the thread politically neutral. The incident i quoted was a fighter being visual with an airliner and being ordered to shoot it down. The incident you quote was not.