Florian Wirtz

Alan Harper's Tash said:
Does anyone know what our budget will be?
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I think we haven't spent our full budget last summer, so surely we will have at least 200m this summer? Maybe someone else has specific figures following our finances. It would be interesting to see.
 
FMwkdsoul said:
Nope we're fine for that, we have a 60% ratio turnover already well under the limit.. Swiss Ramble did a post on it the other day.
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Sounds good. I guess we have room for 2-3 big signings then.

If we could get £50m+ for KDB to Saudi, that’d free up loads more too. Whether we should do that is another matter, but it could buy us Wirtz/Musiala.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Sounds good. I guess we have room for 2-3 big signings then.

If we could get £50m+ for KDB to Saudi, that’d free up loads more too. Whether we should do that is another matter, but it could buy us Wirtz/Musiala.
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We would get about 100m for Kevin, although I don't think he would want to go (luckily). Bernardo (sadly) might fancy a move, though, and he has something like 50m in his release clause. One way or another, seeing how Arsenal/Liverpool are doing this season, we probably need about 3 big signings.
 
FMwkdsoul said:
Neves or Kimmich I reckon.

Paqueta and then a RW.

cant see Wirtz or Musiala moving this summer unfortunately.
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Neves and Kimmich maybe feasable and they can play in many positions across the field
Paqueta also as a winger or playing centrally, he reminds me of more flashier Grealish
Wirtz as a KdB successor.
 
Skrastins said:
Neves and Kimmich maybe feasable and they can play in many positions across the field
Paqueta also as a winger or playing centrally, he reminds me of more flashier Grealish
Wirtz as a KdB successor.
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yeah, we just don't have the squad space to sign 4 midfielders.

Maybe if Doku gets bumped to RW and Silva leaves with Kev.
 
Can’t see us signing all of them. For me Paqueta is if Bernie goes and we were happy to get him in for a year with Bernie but what happened happened and we reacted with Nunes. Might still see this happen this year and not get a winger.

Can’t see Kimmich without Nunes or Kovacic going, they both signed in the summer.

Maybe Witrz and Musiala could both be looked at instead of Paqueta but would only be one signing (out of those 3) in my opinion.

Also we aren’t getting Kimmich and Musiala from Bayern in the same window.

For me Wirtz goes to Bayern after the Euros. Alonso to be the new manager as well. If Musiala does want out will be like Mbappe and drag on, anyone’s best chance of getting him might be when his contract runs out 2025?
 
bell_mcfc said:
KDB for me is irreplaceable. I know what you mean by playing his role but he won't do it the same which isn't a bad thing. One thing we've done incredibly well is replacing legends with great players and hopefully moulding them into legends themselves. We didn't replace Yaya or Aguero with players like them we changed how we played and adapted.

Could Wirtz play for City, of course he's a incredible talent. Could he make midfield his own, of course again. Just don't expect him to play like KDB or us to play like we have KDB in the team. This is another way that Pep is a genius in my opinion and always ahead of the pack.

The tricky part for me is I think Kev still has some years left in him even eventually as a squad player. We also have Foden who should play down the middle. We do often target posistionless players so a Paqueta, Wirtz or even Musiala would be expected to play centrally and out wide like Bernado and Foden already do.
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Agreed. We used to have the Fernandinho role & I suppose the hope was the more combative Kalvin Philips would've replaced him, but sadly this was far from the case.

However, the world now talks about the Rodri role because he's become so imperious at what he does. Rodders & Fern are totally different types of players, but each are equally as effective in the CDM role.

I suppose we don't replace like for like, we just evolve with the squad we have.
 
Dialog said:
I like Paqueta a lot, but if we can pull this 3 singings off, I would be over the moon. This sets us up for a long time and gets us back to the top of peppering teams
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Obviously Wirtz is the one.

As for Musiala, as stated previously I've never quite got the hype & I suppose I can say the same regarding Kimmich.

Just my personal view. Hopefully others have identified assets which I failed to do. )(
 
Dribble said:
Obviously Wirtz is the one.

As for Musiala, as stated previously I've never quite got the hype & I suppose I can say the same regarding Kimmich.

Just my personal view. Hopefully others have identified assets which I failed to do. )(
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I used to like Kimmich a long time ago. He was a fantastic player. Now of late, I honestly do not rate him, its like he has lost his midas touch.

As for Musiala, sorry Dribble, the boy is special. His runs and dribbling abilty unlocks tight and compact defenses, the defenses we face 75-80% of the time. The boy is fantastic to watch.

Wirtz is dynamic, energetic and can play CAM and RW. He would definitely be a world class addition to this squad.
 
Dialog said:
I used to like Kimmich a long time ago. He was a fantastic player. Now of late, I honestly do not rate him, its like he has lost his midas touch.

As for Musiala, sorry Dribble, the boy is special. His runs and dribbling abilty unlocks tight and compact defenses, the defenses we face 75-80% of the time. The boy is fantastic to watch.

Wirtz is dynamic, energetic and can play CAM and RW. He would definitely be a world class addition to this squad.
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I'll happily bow to your opinion of Musiala, & I'll make a point of watching a few more Bayern matches, as highlight reels rarely give a true reflection of a players' ability. )(
 
Dialog said:
I used to like Kimmich a long time ago. He was a fantastic player. Now of late, I honestly do not rate him, its like he has lost his midas touch.

As for Musiala, sorry Dribble, the boy is special. His runs and dribbling abilty unlocks tight and compact defenses, the defenses we face 75-80% of the time. The boy is fantastic to watch.

Wirtz is dynamic, energetic and can play CAM and RW. He would definitely be a world class addition to this squad.
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Would be brilliant to get both but I think Wirtz would have a more obvious path into the team; he’s an incredible creator and would be an obvious heir to De Bruyne.
 
Skrastins said:
Dont know how accurate it is

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We’d take a £50m+ hit on Grealish. Plus he probably brings in more image rights money than anyone else at the club. So financially the move would be a disaster, even if another club picked up his wages.


But more than that, I just don’t see Pep casting him off after an injury hit season. He’s been disappointing but he’s got a valid excuse.
 
Sir Joe Aguero said:
Would be brilliant to get both but I think Wirtz would have a more obvious path into the team; he’s an incredible creator and would be an obvious heir to De Bruyne.
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Somebody has to replace Bernado and somebody has to repalce KDB. Musiala and Wirtz are those for me.
 
domalino said:
We’d take a £50m+ hit on Grealish. Plus he probably brings in more image rights money than anyone else at the club. So financially the move would be a disaster, even if another club picked up his wages.


But more than that, I just don’t see Pep casting him off after an injury hit season. He’s been disappointing but he’s got a valid excuse.
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Do I misunderstand you or are you really saying we'd only get £50m maximum for Grealish if we sold him now?
 
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