Football Tourism - Good, Bad or Indifferent?

Football is changing in fact it may very well be dying. Big business big money has killed the local feeling of top football clubs, tribalism is irrelevant it's like going to the cinema for many fans it use to be life or death now it's a shrug of the shoulders to most.
For the very first time in 30 years I didn't buy a season ticket this season because I don't think we are a cohesive group of supporters and I 100% don't believe that our club represents us at the minute, waiting for the bubble to burst and for football to get raw again when it was more enjoyable.

Every chance it'll be my last one after this season,but it'll be var that finishes me off,not the several thousand selfie taking folk I now see on matchday,but I'm fully aware it's the money that matters now to clubs,as we have found out ourselves.

Thankfully though,after years of pain and dross,my invested thousands and thousands of pounds have eventually got me to see a team that can string 3 passes together,and win a shit load of trophies along the way,so probably was worth it in the end :)
 
Football is changing in fact it may very well be dying. Big business big money has killed the local feeling of top football clubs, tribalism is irrelevant it's like going to the cinema for many fans it use to be life or death now it's a shrug of the shoulders to most.
For the very first time in 30 years I didn't buy a season ticket this season because I don't think we are a cohesive group of supporters and I 100% don't believe that our club represents us at the minute, waiting for the bubble to burst and for football to get raw again when it was more enjoyable.
Football Tourism - Good, Bad or Indifferent?

City are included in this piece on Football Tourism.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49920019

The article asks, "why is the notion of the "football tourist" such an anathema to some fans? "

This is part of a wider debate about the changed face of football and `new` Blues.

Achieving the balance between increasing local and widening global support is what our club is striving to do.

Views on this topical subject are wide ranging - good, bad and indifferent.

It is clear though that City support from beyond Manchester and Greater Manchester is likely to become a more prominent part of our crowd.

Below are a few extracts from the BBC piece:

" But the most ambitious are after the world.

Manchester City's parent company, the City Football Group, have seven clubs and 12 offices in key markets across the world, as part of a plan to transport the club from Greater Manchester to the globe - a process referred to by sports business consultants as "glocalisation".

Authenticity is a key word. City have nine international websites and social media accounts in 13 languages, including Thai, Indonesian, Mandarin, Spanish and Portuguese, which they are "constantly temperature checking" to make them relevant to their intended market, in part through locally based content producers.

Like many clubs, they also stage fan engagement activities around the world, including match day screenings, pre-season tours, friendlies and community projects. The club are currently midway through a global tour, visiting 12 countries with the six pieces of silverware they won last season, and hosting fan events featuring ex-players Paul Dickov, Micah Richards and Shaun Wright-Phillips."


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Two other Belgians, Edgar and Thomas, made their way over for the Everton v Man City game, but their reason was a lot more specific - their compatriot Kevin de Bruyne.

“We both follow City because of Kevin, and before that Vincent Kompany as well," explains Thomas. "There is a lot of pride back in Belgium about how well they are doing. We are a small country and at the moment we have some very good players in the Premier League.”

“I am a big diehard fan of City since Vincent Kompany came here," adds Edgar. "We don't really have a Belgian team that we support as football at home is not as entertaining as the Premier League. The atmosphere here is great.”

Edgar (left) and Thomas (right) hold aloft a Belgium flag in front of the Man City team bus outside Goodison Park
My opinion is the other way around. Over the years match-going football fans have become almost exclusively season-ticket in part because it's the only way to economically follow your club.

Used to be the case that you'd queue on the day and pay cash at the turnstile, but over the years as ticket prices went up and up, more and more fans have season tickets. Most grounds now are 80% season ticket plus away fans. That's a fact.

There are casual supporters going to Champions League games. In the case of City, anecdotally I think at least half the crowd if not more are none-seasoncard holders.

This is because of the glamour, and largely because many City fans have dropped out of the CL scheme as a way of cutting back on costs. City fans also know that many of the CL games are dead-rubbers and the CL games only become interesting in the latter stages.
 
My opinion is the other way around. Over the years match-going football fans have become almost exclusively season-ticket in part because it's the only way to economically follow your club.

Used to be the case that you'd queue on the day and pay cash at the turnstile, but over the years as ticket prices went up and up, more and more fans have season tickets. Most grounds now are 80% season ticket plus away fans. That's a fact.

There are casual supporters going to Champions League games. In the case of City, anecdotally I think at least half the crowd if not more are none-seasoncard holders.

This is because of the glamour, and largely because many City fans have dropped out of the CL scheme as a way of cutting back on costs. City fans also know that many of the CL games are dead-rubbers and the CL games only become interesting in the latter stages.

Whichever way it's dressed up bud I feel more like a customer than a fan now than I ever did.
 
Whichever way it's dressed up bud I feel more like a customer than a fan now than I ever did.
The game is more commercialised than ever before, but I just go to watch the football, and ignore everything else.

My love of football and support for City has probably grown over the years if anything. My dislike for Man Utd has dropped, my dislike for Liverpool has grown. All that has happened for me is that my tribal enemy has switched from Man Utd to Liverpool.
 
The game is more commercialised than ever before, but I just go to watch the football, and ignore everything else.

My love of football and support for City has probably grown over the years if anything. My dislike for Man Utd has dropped, my dislike for Liverpool has grown. All that has happened for me is that my tribal enemy has switched from Man Utd to Liverpool.

Agree with that,especially the disliking switch,I'm so glad I've witnessed the demise of them,but must admit,as much as Sunday hurt,it was made easier later in the day what I saw happen in Newcastle.
 
As Johnny Rotten once crooned
"Those tourists are money"

When i moved to Boston 8 years ago there was something like 40 fans on the Boston Blues facebook page. There are now 240....
Back then there were maybe 10 or so for non glamourous games and now 40 odd for those games watching in the Banshee bar.
Many of these fans are saving up to get to a game this or next season.
What you need to understand is every single City game is available for us to watch on TV here, in our homes or the pub. All the Saturday 3pm games so Yankee Blues get to see more games than most City fans do.
And in the absence of any credible local / national league it is no surprise the PL is so widely viewed over here and folk pick and choose a team.
Yes these are tourist fans but also big City fans as opposed to going to see the LA Dodgers or Barca when on holiday.
I know folk who have gone to see Orlando City when in Florida. They are not fans of Orlando but wanted to take a game in, so we have to separate the fan from the tourist just because they have an American (or wherever) accent.
The tourist will buy a baseball cap and a half and half scarf on a one off basis, the fan will invest much more over a longer period of time.
 
I have absolutely no problem with tourists I know what I am and I know who was there and still is 45 years on supporting City, they do there thing we do ours if are paths cross fine they are welcome, brings shit loads of money to the club, why would you not welcome that.
 
I don't have a problem with them except they have to realise that being among home support in half and half scarves is one thing, celebrating an away goal while grinning and clapping and filming it is another. Maybe lump them all together in a section of that often part empty family stand?

Strangely after years of going all around the country following us when we were mainly rubbish on the field, my love for going to a game is dying as we are at our most successful period in our history and playing beautiful football. Very hard to define why but it is mainly a lot of niggling little things combined with me becoming a grumpy old man lol.

The packed erratic often not fit for purpose transport system to and from the game. Kick off time changes for tv or this Europa league nonsense as per Sunday. The rising cost year on year and the ludicrous price I would have to pay if I gave up my season ticket and went on a selective match basis. The queuing to hold my arms up and be wanded like some prisoner. Being told I can't fetch a drink or sandwich in, but if I am hungry or thirsty can queue forever, to be charged extortionate prices for a rubbish product, by a poor inadequately underpaid kid. Being told I am a valued customer who matters, then manhandled like a thug if I fall foul of one of the ever increasing petty rules no one knows a thing about until you break one, as I did trying to go back and collect something I had left under my seat on Sunday.

When paying to attend something that is supposed to be an enjoyable experience starts becoming anything but you question why you are still doing it. You then see you are on live tv and put your ticket on the exchange for the odd game. This then stretches to more games as you realise you didn't miss going at all and while you would have been queuing getting jostled in the rain for slow packed transport, you are sat comfortably at home watching replays of the action, analysis and interviews with players and managers you would usually have missed. Finally renewal time comes around and you are torn once again, continue or not? The former normally wins but for how long?

The problem for football clubs is once the die hard grumpy old dinosaurs have finally been driven away and replaced with smiley happy tourists, what happens when the success and beautiful football starts to wane? What happens when they pay for not one but six or more games like the Wolves defeat? When the met fails or is cancelled due to engineering works and they stagger bedraggled in the rain back to their hotel, after getting lost twice on the way? We all know the answer to that one, they look for the next happy smiley big thing to latch onto, as the Eagles song "New kid in town, I don't want to hear it" booms over the tannoy in the now half empty stadium they don't call home anymore. Have a nice day, your support is important to us!
 
I don't have a problem with them except they have to realise that being among home support in half and half scarves is one thing, celebrating an away goal while grinning and clapping and filming it is another. Maybe lump them all together in a section of that often part empty family stand?

Strangely after years of going all around the country following us when we were mainly rubbish on the field, my love for going to a game is dying as we are at our most successful period in our history and playing beautiful football. Very hard to define why but it is mainly a lot of niggling little things combined with me becoming a grumpy old man lol.

The packed erratic often not fit for purpose transport system to and from the game. Kick off time changes for tv or this Europa league nonsense as per Sunday. The rising cost year on year and the ludicrous price I would have to pay if I gave up my season ticket and went on a selective match basis. The queuing to hold my arms up and be wanded like some prisoner. Being told I can't fetch a drink or sandwich in, but if I am hungry or thirsty can queue forever, to be charged extortionate prices for a rubbish product, by a poor inadequately underpaid kid. Being told I am a valued customer who matters, then manhandled like a thug if I fall foul of one of the ever increasing petty rules no one knows a thing about until you break one, as I did trying to go back and collect something I had left under my seat on Sunday.

When paying to attend something that is supposed to be an enjoyable experience starts becoming anything but you question why you are still doing it. You then see you are on live tv and put your ticket on the exchange for the odd game. This then stretches to more games as you realise you didn't miss going at all and while you would have been queuing getting jostled in the rain for slow packed transport, you are sat comfortably at home watching replays of the action, analysis and interviews with players and managers you would usually have missed. Finally renewal time comes around and you are torn once again, continue or not? The former normally wins but for how long?

The problem for football clubs is once the die hard grumpy old dinosaurs have finally been driven away and replaced with smiley happy tourists, what happens when the success and beautiful football starts to wane? What happens when they pay for not one but six or more games like the Wolves defeat? When the met fails or is cancelled due to engineering works and they stagger bedraggled in the rain back to their hotel, after getting lost twice on the way? We all know the answer to that one, they look for the next happy smiley big thing to latch onto, as the Eagles song "New kid in town, I don't want to hear it" booms over the tannoy in the now half empty stadium they don't call home anymore. Have a nice day, your support is important to us!


Great post bud.
SKY subscribers are treated better as customers than match day attendees, herded like Sheep told to sit down and if you smoke in the toilets you're a planet destroying evil bugger.

I can shout at my telly now and the only gobby steward is my wife if I ask for a brew in game.
 

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