idahoblues
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It’s winter…tear gas is the only viable option right now
"Freedom" marches/rallies
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roman totale
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Nah. Throw some glycol in there and have some fun.
I’m vaccinated and always will be. So too is my wife and when old enough is like to think my children will be the exact same.
What I don’t get is this insistence and resultant anger at a minority and it is a minority that for whatever reasons they have convinced themselves with, don’t want it and won’t get it?
I’m protected, the vast majority of our adult, at risk populations are protected and if they don’t want that same protection, so be it.
I don’t agree with them but I can’t bring myself to pour the level of hatred on them that some seemingly want either.
What I don’t get is this insistence and resultant anger at a minority and it is a minority that for whatever reasons they have convinced themselves with, don’t want it and won’t get it?
I’m protected, the vast majority of our adult, at risk populations are protected and if they don’t want that same protection, so be it.
I don’t agree with them but I can’t bring myself to pour the level of hatred on them that some seemingly want either.
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As you've highlighted here they are a minority, but they make a lot of noise for the percentage of the population they make up.
At this point the fact that they get so in your face about it and wear it as some sort of badge of honour and quite a lot of them just act like total sanctimonious pricks.
Social media now gives all minority voices a huge platform and it makes you feel like there are huge numbers who think the same way but the reality is often far from it and on this issue, it’s the same.
I don’t agree with their blockade in the same way I didn’t agree with the road blocks of Insulate Britain and for me, they should be broken up asap.
That said and my point is, whilst not agreeing with either, I also can’t find the time or fucks to give that would bring me to hating them like some obviously do.
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Wrong again mate. And conveniently moving the goalposts when conclusive evidence shows that you're wrong.
The organisers of Ottawa are the same mix of fringe far right elements, antisemitic conspiracy theorists, and sovereign citizen crazies. The following points out some of these links and extremist views they have.
Pat King, one of the Ottawa protests earliest leaders/organisers likes to spout white replacement and white supremacy bullshit.
This is what he actually believes
King, also noted that when other organisers distanced themselves from him, he took a step back "only for PR". By the way, for such a noble cause he is taking a clip of the money they raise. A grifter til the end...
Stepping Back Merely for PR
One of the speakers that they got on stage in Ottawa loves dealing in Antisemitic conspiracy theories. Here he is using his own words. What a surprise - this guy is one of Canada's foremost Sovereign Citizen conspiracy advocates. What a coincidence that the same combination of people are at the forefront of all these movements. But no, as you say, it's clearly on about mandates...
Good ol' fashioned antisemitism!
And even though you say the organisers are strictly anti-mandate, the organisers themselves aren't the real 'string pullers' who have whipped up these fantasists into a frenzy.
The hacked account and suspicious donations behind the Canadian trucker protests
Hundreds of people have been camped out in the icy streets of Ottawa, Canada’s capital city, for more than a week, occupying the area around the nation’s government buildings. It’s a protest ostensibly stemming from some Canadian cross-border truckers’ objections to a Canadian requirement that...
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Again, this issue is nuanced. The real intent behind the protests isn't hard to see, but only if you're willing to look. They are co-opting somewhat legitimate anti-mandate concerns into something much much worse. That's why there are nazi flags flying with the protest. That's why the organisers have extremist links. That's why there's antisemitism and sovereign citizen sentiment. It is not solely about mandates.
And one last Australian reference - here's another "anti-mandate protestor" as you label them clearly enunciating, that the one reason he's specifically there is not the mandates. Although he does have a cool dog. Enjoy! ;)
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Wouldn’t say that this is true in every instance. I have personally found some Twitter accounts to be very useful when it comes to some of the issues that I like to keep tabs on, for example, Shiraz Maher (Salafi-jihadism/terrorism), Peter Pomerantsev (Ukraine/Russia), Devi Sridhar (Covid).
Their academic credentials are impressive, and they often direct their followers to articles and publications of interest that also tend to be authoritative and well-balanced. And so when they resort to argument themselves, I take what they have to say very seriously indeed.
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Conveniently? Please! Get over yourself. I was talking about the Truckers. I simply did not know you were talking about Australia until I watched your videos. But believe what you want. You seem to do a lot of that.
What does what Pat King believe have to do with it? Is his believe the point of the protest? You can find crazies in any protest. Pick a protest where you can't find a crazy.
The question is what are the protests about? They were started about the mandates. There demands 'publicly stated' are about the mandates. So that's what the protest are essentially about. An Anti-Mandate Protests
Even the guy youpoint out he majority distance themselves from him. But somehow you reckon he was a good representative of the protest. Talk about being disengenuous.
Again being disengenuous. Where did I say they were strictly Anti-Mandate?
It's as if you are purposely trying not to understand simple concepts. I wonder why that is?
Who said it was solely about Anti- Mandate. Red Herring much?The hacked account and suspicious donations behind the Canadian trucker protests
Hundreds of people have been camped out in the icy streets of Ottawa, Canada’s capital city, for more than a week, occupying the area around the nation’s government buildings. It’s a protest ostensibly stemming from some Canadian cross-border truckers’ objections to a Canadian requirement that...
Again, this issue is nuanced. The real intent behind the protests isn't hard to see, but only if you're willing to look. They are co-opting somewhat legitimate anti-mandate concerns into something much much worse. That's why there are nazi flags flying with the protest. That's why the organisers have extremist links. That's why there's antisemitism and sovereign citizen sentiment. It is not solely about mandates.
You are in essence saying an Anti-Mandate protest has been infiltrated by people who have shitty conspiracies and ideas. And therefore it's not an Anti- Mandate Protest because of that?
Even you won't say that. So I don't get your point. You are hard at work trying to disprove something you don't disagree with.
Yes! There are individuals at protests who don't care about the protest! Shocker!!!
Do you have any more of those gems? Sorry but this has gotten annoying.
Let me be clear, it's an Anti-Mandate Protests. The vote of their demands relate to ending Vaccine, Mask, and movement restriction Mandates. Period!
That there are cunts, grifters, and sickos in that midst, does not change the essence of the .... And let me be clear here... Canadian/American Truckers Freedom protests.
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