Frenkie de Jong

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

How so? One of the few players in the world that improves our team.
Letting Raz run down his contract certainly doesn’t save us any money.

We have no obligation to appease our Academy players. The point of the Academy is NOT to feed the first team. Either they are the top talents or we sign the top talents in a position, if we want to be at the top. Taking gambles is for teams with lesser ambitions

Straight swap doesnt save them anything. No transfer fee incoming, De Jong is already on a higher wage. It might be better on paper, but its not a money saver by any stretch.

One of the points of the academy is to feed the first team, the other is to generate cash from improving young players to farm out.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Straight swap doesnt save them anything. No transfer fee incoming, De Jong is already on a higher wage. It might be better on paper, but its not a money saver by any stretch.

One of the points of the academy is to feed the first team, the other is to generate cash from improving young players to farm out.

Sterling reportedly wants KdB wages (higher than FdJ currently)

The point of the Academy, from the CFG perspective, really is the cash. It helps so much with FFP. It’s been far more helpful to the other teams in the chain. Feeding the first team is a consequence for when the top of the top talents emerge, but anyone expecting the kids to be useful in the first team necessarily to be considered a success, will probably end up frustrated

 

[Mad 4 It]

This guy in Sterling out, I believe makes us stronger what’s not to like

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

Sterling reportedly wants KdB wages (higher than FdJ currently)

The point of the Academy, from the CFG perspective, really is the cash. It helps so much with FFP. It’s been far more helpful to the other teams in the chain. Feeding the first team is a consequence for when the top of the top talents emerge, but anyone expecting the kids to be useful in the first team necessarily to be considered a success, will probably end up frustrated

Agreed. Frankie is in no way a saving over Raz in a straight swap as it stands or stood (Ive no idea if FDJ agreed a cut as part of the COVID budget slash at Barca, dont remember seeing his name) - His normal wage is about 350k usually so going from that.

I expect the kids to be given a shot training with the first team at least, see who mentally and physically makes the speed adjustment in his game, clearly getting a hell of a positional and technical training in the CFA right now.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Agreed. Frankie is in no way a saving over Raz in a straight swap as it stands or stood (Ive no idea if FDJ agreed a cut as part of the COVID budget slash at Barca, dont remember seeing his name) - His normal wage is about 350k usually so going from that.

I don’t want this to get misunderstood. When I implied “saving”, I was trying to say, probably there won’t be a better way to improve the team than a Sterling/FdJ swap that would be such a bargain. It’s so “too good to be true” that I doubt Barcelona would agree. Replacing Sterling’s current wages for FdJ, given performances, would also be respective to what they deliver.
The pay cut (which he took) was just for a period of time. He is their best paid player now

 

[blueparrot]

How so? One of the few players in the world that improves our team.
Letting Raz run down his contract certainly doesn’t save us any money.

We have no obligation to appease our Academy players. The point of the Academy is NOT to feed the first team. Either they are the top talents or we sign the top talents in a position, if we want to be at the top. Taking gambles is for teams with lesser ambitions

Because if Sterling doesn’t sign a contract we will sell him probably in the summer. So he has a value. We may well be using that value as a calculation for what we can spend on a new striker so swapping him for a player in a position we aren't desperate for wouldn’t be saving us a fortune it would be wasting an asset.
Nothing to do with whether academy players are or aren’t good enough.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Because if Sterling doesn’t sign a contract we will sell him probably in the summer.

How can you be so sure?! Who would be paying?
Also, the worst thing the club can do is become “desperate” for a position to sign a player. You’d think we would have learned by now

 

[blueparrot]

How can you be so sure?!

I’m giving my best guess like everyone else. Seems unlikely we’ll keep him and let him go for nothing.
The only possible reason I see us trying to buy De Jong is if we are resigned to losing Bernardo. Otherwise it makes no sense to swap a wide forward for another midfielder.
Better selling Sterling and using the money for the players we want in positions we need them, that’s what I expect the club will do.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

I’m giving my best guess like everyone else. Seems unlikely we’ll keep him and let him go for nothing.
The only possible reason I see us trying to buy De Jong is if we are resigned to losing Bernardo. Otherwise it makes no sense to swap a wide forward for another midfielder.
Better selling Sterling and using the money for the players we want in positions we need them, that’s what I expect the club will do.

We have let players run down their contracts before. The issue is, only Barcelona has leaked interest on Sterling (unless I missed something).
Unfortunately, I do think Bernardo will still want to leave at the end of the season and Mendes may finally find the right deal.
I don’t think we would rely on Sterling so heavily to make or break our FFP accountability. Some sort of swap with a Barcelona player that might interest us is a kind of creative deal that we like to make

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

I’m giving my best guess like everyone else. Seems unlikely we’ll keep him and let him go for nothing.
The only possible reason I see us trying to buy De Jong is if we are resigned to losing Bernardo. Otherwise it makes no sense to swap a wide forward for another midfielder.
Better selling Sterling and using the money for the players we want in positions we need them, that’s what I expect the club will do.

Gundogan is 31 and out of contract in just over 18 months, haven't heard of any rumours of a new contract as yet. So Bernardo is not the only possibility of someone needing replacing.