Fuming!

[machiavellian]

You mention the Old Trafford model, but how long may it be until we adopt that?

Compulsory cup games?

As for the 'good old days' Skash, if the club continue to further sink into the mindset of seeing fans as cash-cows then it won't be long before the genuine 'good old days' are unattainable for a lot of blues who attended during the 'good old days' as mockingly put it.

But of course it's much easier to deride anyone who hold concerns about the club's new initiatives and apparent change in approach to the match going fans.

No. It's much easier to moan as you are proving.

No, in fact it's much easier to reply with half-arsed attempts at wit, with little thought.

If you've nothing to add, then swagger along to another thread.

 

[SWP's back]

The total of:

Norwich, Ipswitch, Wimbledon, Palace, Pompey aways in 2001/02

Plus

West Ham, Soton, Spurs, Chelsea, Charlton 2002/03

= Same loyalty points as Reading Qtr at home 2010/11

And....

I read that as the club wanted a full-ish house for a fucking huge game. And it worked.

 

[machiavellian]

The total of:

Norwich, Ipswitch, Wimbledon, Palace, Pompey aways in 2001/02

Plus

West Ham, Soton, Spurs, Chelsea, Charlton 2002/03

= Same loyalty points as Reading Qtr at home 2010/11

And....

I read that as the club wanted a full-ish house for a fucking huge game. And it worked.

No it didn't. Its effect on the final attendance would have been seriously negligible.

All it did was serve to undermine the loyalty point system, which was further undermined when the seasoncard renewals were sent out in the summer.

 

[SWP's back]

The total of:

Norwich, Ipswitch, Wimbledon, Palace, Pompey aways in 2001/02

Plus

West Ham, Soton, Spurs, Chelsea, Charlton 2002/03

= Same loyalty points as Reading Qtr at home 2010/11

And....

I read that as the club wanted a full-ish house for a fucking huge game. And it worked.

No it didn't. Its effect on the final attendance would have been seriously negligible.

All it did was serve to undermine the loyalty point system, which was further undermined when the seasoncard renewals were sent out in the summer.

Cry me a river.

 

[machiavellian]

And....

I read that as the club wanted a full-ish house for a fucking huge game. And it worked.

No it didn't. Its effect on the final attendance would have been seriously negligible.

All it did was serve to undermine the loyalty point system, which was further undermined when the seasoncard renewals were sent out in the summer.

Cry me a river.

No, in fact it's much easier to reply with half-arsed attempts at wit, with little thought.

If you've nothing to add, then swagger along to another thread.

 

[Skashion]

As for the 'good old days' Skash, if the club continue to further sink into the mindset of seeing fans as cash-cows then it won't be long before the genuine 'good old days' are unattainable for a lot of blues who attended during the 'good old days' as mockingly put it.

But of course it's much easier to deride anyone who hold concerns about the club's new initiatives and apparent change in approach to the match going fans.

Yup, I certainly deride anyone who spent untold hundreds and thousands up and down the country following the blues to every away lecturing others that loyalty points are all about the money now. THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. Following a football club home and away has been expensive for some time now. It's not some newly emerged phenomenon since 2008. Those who've got severe financial burdens to face have always been excluded.

 

[SWP's back]

How would you have attempted to fill the ground then?

Ps - if you are gonna say £5 tickets don't bother as you're living in a dream world. Certainly not the real world by any stretch. It's not as though anyone was disenfranchised by the extra points was it.

 

[Corky]

If you offered 40 points for the reading game 99% would still have gone.

100 and the other 1% buy tickets and don't turn up.

 

[SWP's back]

If you offered 40 points for the reading game 99% would still have gone.

100 and the other 1% buy tickets and don't turn up.

I still don't understand why you worry. If you went to Norwich ten years ago and to reading in the cup, them you lose nothing.

Why so precious over loyalty points? The club want to reward current loyalty as it's what earns them the dough.

As figures on who and wouldn't have gone, what's your source?

 

[machiavellian]

As for the 'good old days' Skash, if the club continue to further sink into the mindset of seeing fans as cash-cows then it won't be long before the genuine 'good old days' are unattainable for a lot of blues who attended during the 'good old days' as mockingly put it.

But of course it's much easier to deride anyone who hold concerns about the club's new initiatives and apparent change in approach to the match going fans.

Yup, I certainly deride anyone who spent untold hundreds and thousands up and down the country following the blues to every way lecturing others that loyalty points are all about the money now. THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. Following a football club home and away has been expensive for some time now. It's not some newly emerged phenomenon since 2008. Those who've got severe financial burdens to face have always been excluded.

Incorrect.

That's partly true, but the loyalty point system has always been the club's way of separating the most 'loyal' fans from the fair-weathers in order to allocate the tickets to the most deserving fans for the correct matches.

Which is why it's wrong to undermine the whole system with such examples as individual games earning ten times as many points as they would under normal circumstances, and the pretty shameless alterations to the seaconcard holder's points in the summer.

That is when the loyalty point system became about money. And that is why its days are numbered.

And this is symptomatic of initiatives the club are introducing which revolve around money, at our expense, and are not particularly subtle in that fact.

Which, believe it or not, concerns many match going blues.

I've just received a pm with regards to this thread from another poster, who feels uncomfortable posting about his circumstances in this thread publicly, because, I imagine, of the potential reaction of some of the more vocal apologists among the forum's loud mouth contingent.

You won't get any joy out of this lot mate. They're too busy taking trying to be funny and slagging other blues off to see what's happening here.

I didn't join the CL cup scheme for financial reasons- baby on the way, made redundant a while ago, and trying to start my own business. Had a s/t for 25 years but don't even get a chance to get my regular seat for the CL, they automatically allocate it to a scheme member apparently. By the way, I haven't missed a home cup game for donkeys years, I just cannot allow the club to have access to my account.

The club now think none of those 25 years matter as I can't give them free access to my bank account. It stinks as far as I'm concerned.

Cheers

Pretty sad when someone is made to feel a lesser blue, or is labelled a 'moaner', X Y Z, because he voices his discontent towards something which has a negative impact on his attendance to games.