Fuming!

GXCity said:
SWP's back said:
GXCity said:
We didnt have loyalty points at Maine Road. We had 1st year, 2nd year, 3rd year, 4th year and Regular season ticket holders. I seem to remember you got a loyalty point boost when we moved to COMS depending on which year you were in.
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So the current system that goes back 10 years is better (at stopping those horrid JCL's) than the "good old" system that only went back 5 years then.

Glad we got sorted.
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I would say it is better as you could go to every game home and away and you could have had your ST for 20 years, but if somebody had their ST for 5 years and got in the queue at the TO before you, they would get the ticket for The Swamp or a cup final before you.
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Further disproving the thought that the club used to look after fans better int' good ole days.
 
machiavellian said:
You're neglecting the fact that we were taken over by Sheikh Mansour 3 years ago.

Let's get away from loyalty points potentially 'rewarding' a supporter by enabling you to qualify for a ticket for a high profile away game, and think about the more rudimentary considerations.

Ever since the takeover people have been keenly aware of their point totals, because (most assumed) they ensured that they wouldn't be left behind once we began to go places, that when the attendances began to increase and tickets became more hard to come by they'd be recognised as they had the insurance, so to speak, of a considerable amount of loyalty points.

We've all been keenly aware that attendances would increase, and demand for tickets would increase.

The loyalty point system took up a greater significance than it ever had previously from the 1st of September 2008. It became about much more than away tickets from then on, it was (and is) fundamental in ensuring those who'd been there through the darker times weren't left behind amidst a great surge in demand for tickets from new admirers - a la Chelsea.

But now there are so many discrepancies, so many inconsistencies, that someone who's been held a seasoncard for the past 3 years and made a few cup games and aways, could be not so far off a regular who held a season ticket since the system's inception around 10 years ago, but rarely attends away fixtures and / or had to take a year or two out (for whatever reason) when loyalty points were being thrown around like confetti.

For example there is an old fella behind me at CoMS who's held a season ticket for almost 30 years, he has rarely ever attended away fixtures, and while his points total used to fairly reflect his time supporting City (besides 20 fucking unrecognised years), it no longer does - particularly since the club have been so wildly inconsistent in the awarding of points over the past few years.

It won't be long until blues like him are left behind as relatively new seasoncard holders will overtake him if they attend a few choice fixtures he doesn't and he stays on 'Gold' while they opt for 'Platinum'.

Loyalty points have always been a reflection on how many games you've attended and for how long over the past 10 years, but since the club are fiddling with points for games and even introducing "E Programmes" with loyalty points, there is no longer a consistency. And as Corky implied previously, you could attend a specific game last season and receive the same amount of points as someone who attended 5 fixtures a few years previously.

There are too many discrepancies.

The loyalty point system is no longer a fair reflection of who is the most 'loyal', and it truly has become about money (and I vehemently dispute the fact that it was always about money, it simply wasn't). You took exception to my comment, stating ironies, but nonetheless I believe it'll only continue to worsen as the club continue to cynically use it to play upon fans' fears of 'being left behind' to increase revenue - until, it has been stretched and undermined so far, that they'll have no choice but to replace it.

And that, ultimately, is my greatest fear, as such a scenario would dramatically increase the likelihood of our match-going fanbase going the way of Chelsea's.

Which would be pretty fucking shit.
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You're just making this up as you go along. People are worried about home tickets now? If you're already a season ticket holder, you can just renew in perpetuity and no-one will stop you (unless you've be banned) and if you're not already one, it's never been guaranteed you'll get one on the basis of loyalty points. As for these many thousands of non-season ticket holding blues with many thousands of points, do you have any evidence that they're being excluded because of the onslaught of new fans? I'd appreciate some because, as far as I know, those who need to buy them on individual match days still get allocated them on points and Shirley someone who was at York away (but is no longer a season ticket holder) would have enough points to get one before Mr Cheng and his holidaying family.

Once again we return to this. Being an awayer and building up those points has always been a prohibitively expensive affair. It's still the right way to do it, as there is no better way, but I'm not suffering from the delusion that being able to afford away games somehow makes you more loyal.

Ticket prices are another issue but if the club's only agenda was to extract the maximum amount of money from fans they would not do U16 season tickets for £95, value season tickets for £260, or these family deals. I don't know if anyone's told you this as well but we do make a financial loss. They're certainly not in it to rob you blind so they can laugh all the way to the bank.

Go back to reading The Daily Mail and leave those who don't see only doom and gloom ahead in peace to bask in the fact that we're top of the league, watching superb record-breaking football that some adults are paying an extortionate £14.45 a match for. Maybe they could go and watch lower league football, like Accrington Stanley. No wait, their adult season tickets are more expensive than that...
 
SWP's back said:
oakiecokie said:
SWP's back said:
machiavellian's very quiet....
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The lull before the storm perhaps ??
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Nah. Damo binned him.

Which was fair, he did call me a daft twat.
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Banned user just trolling with a new username. Some of them get obsessed by this place and can't accept they're not welcome anymore.
 
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