future expansion

[Marvin]

I'm sure the vast majority of fans became fans after their Dad took them as kids.

If we are going to be in the top 3 for the next 5 years then it doesn't really matter whether we build now or in years time, but we don't know what the future holds. What happens if the UAE is the next country to fall to the Arab Spring (if that means anything now that Egypt is in old hands and Libya is back with the tribes). point is we need to be sustainable otherwise this could all disappear as fast as it came.

 

[ste.sully]

With the news that all seasoncards have sold out for the 2012-2013 season, demand is obviously there and increasing.

I'm guessing the hierarchy will be looking closely at the numbers of Blue Members who are on the Gold waiting list for 2013-2014 and at how well tickets sell in the domestic/european competitions.

Announcement in the close season after 2012-2013 season if sales of cup competitions are decent?

Way to optimistic..Give it 3-4 years at least

Although that timeframe would be normal for stadium expansion, the club need to maximise every last million they can make.

Worth remembering that if the club spent £50m on increasing the stadium capacity it will be exempt from FFP as clubs can spend as much as they want on infrastructure.

 

[Marvin]

With the news that all seasoncards have sold out for the 2012-2013 season, demand is obviously there and increasing.

I'm guessing the hierarchy will be looking closely at the numbers of Blue Members who are on the Gold waiting list for 2013-2014 and at how well tickets sell in the domestic/european competitions.

Announcement in the close season after 2012-2013 season if sales of cup competitions are decent?

Way to optimistic..Give it 3-4 years at least

Although that timeframe would be normal for stadium expansion, the club need to maximise every last million they can make.

Worth remembering that if the club spent £50m on increasing the stadium capacity it will be exempt from FFP as clubs can spend as much as they want on infrastructure.

From what it's cost at other grounds, I think the costs will be a lot more significant than that, and it might also mean much reduced crowds for a season

 

[Roger Ringpiece]

As I said, incorrect.

The picture clearly shows that the stage isnt under the roof.

No it doesnt. Coldplay didnt have a roof last week at the Etihad.

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It really does in Manchester.

The stage is set up under our roof.

 

[Rammyblues]

I thought the points about stadium expansion made by the Liverpool owners recently were interesting - that a new stadium just wouldn't be worth the money. If our owners are thinking about this in terms of long term finances then how much difference will 10,000 extra seats make? Even if they bring in £1000 a season (more than they do now), then that would be £10 million, and that's without considering the many millions it will take to restructure an existing stadium.

Given that we can't charge £100 a ticket like Arsenal, if there are modifications, aren't they more likely to be restructuring what we have to provide more corporate capacity?

When you consider United have a training kit deal for £10m a season, and that we've increased out commercial income by tens of millions a year already, I suspect there are much easier ways to get cash.

Bayern have a commercial income of £160m+ and I would expect our owners to be using their influence to increase ours over the £100m mark, rather than stressing about adding a few thousand extra seats in a disruptive and expensive manner.

IMO personal opinion the roof won't come off and extra seats and corporate boxes added until the area immediately around the stadium is sorted. A lot of pictures in the big thread show what can be done to incorporate hotels and entertainment complexes into the fabric of the actual building. Once they get the outside complexes up and running then and only then will they do the stadium itself which would not be reliant on seat prices only but all the other stuff that goes with it making it economically viable. But to make the area economically viable they have to improve it which is why the academy stuff is being done first. Add the trams in to make sure you have the right infrastructure and then watch the area grow. As I said I could be completely wrong on this and only how I would do it.

 

[S04]

I'm sure the vast majority of fans became fans after their Dad took them as kids.

If we are going to be in the top 3 for the next 5 years then it doesn't really matter whether we build now or in years time, but we don't know what the future holds. What happens if the UAE is the next country to fall to the Arab Spring (if that means anything now that Egypt is in old hands and Libya is back with the tribes). point is we need to be sustainable otherwise this could all disappear as fast as it came.

If it calms you down UAE was voted the country most arabic youngsters would like their own to emulate with Turkey and saudi-Arabia coming in behind.

The UAE is seen as a model nation by youth in the Middle East. The fourth ASDA’A Burson-Marsteller Arab Youth Survey 2012, results of which were released in Dubai on Wednesday, revealed that when Arab youth look across the region and the world, they see the UAE as the country where they would most like to live —and as the country they would most like their own nation to emulate.

The findings were based on 2,500 face-to-face interviews with Arabs between the ages of 18-24 conducted by international polling firm Penn Schoen Berland (PSB) in 12 Middle Eastern countries in December 2011 and January 2012.

When asked which country in the world they would most like their own country to be like, the UAE was the top choice among Arab youth, named by 40 per cent of respondents, followed by Turkey (28 per cent), Saudi Arabia (18 per cent) and Qatar (16 per cent).

When young people in the region were asked which country they would most like to live in, the UAE again topped with 33 per cent, followed by France (17 per cent), the United States and Turkey (16 per cent each) and Saudi Arabia (14 per cent).

Among all the countries surveyed for determining the popularity of the UAE as a destination to set up residence, at top position were Lebanese youth with 43 per cent of them opting for the UAE as their first choice, followed by 38 per cent of Egyptian youngsters. Egyptian youth were also strongly attracted to the idea of living in Saudi Arabia (28 per cent) and Turkey (28 per cent).

When asked which country’s model of growth and development would they most like their country to follow, the UAE was once again the first choice, with 27 per cent of Arab youth opting for the UAE. Among countries, 36 per cent of Libyan youth felt that the UAE had the best model of growth and development.

The popularity of the UAE is reflective of the Emirati youth, who the survey revealed were the most positive among youth in all nations surveyed when it comes to confidence in their nation’s ability to compete internationally. Eighty-four per cent of young people in the UAE were confident of their country’s ability to compete on the world stage.

 

[EricBrooksGhost]

Why do we need to take the roof off.A whole tier of Gene Kelly would do.

 

[jrb]

Coming to Manchester next year. City are one of the sponsors. Interesting video. Click on the City logo to view the PDF.

Plenty for City compare with and to learn from at these events.

THE DEFINITIVE MEETING OF THE GLOBAL STADIUM SECTOR

TheStadiumBusiness Summit is the largest dedicated meeting in the world of the owners, the operators and the developers of the world’s leading stadiums, arenas and major sport venues.

TheStadiumBusiness Summit 2013 will be held in Manchester, UK from 5-7 June 2013. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.stadiumbusinesssummit.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.stadiumbusinesssummit.com/</a>

 

[JOGAMIGMOG]

Coming to Manchester next year. City are one of the sponsors. Interesting video. Click on the City logo to view the PDF.

Plenty for City compare with and to learn from at these events.

THE DEFINITIVE MEETING OF THE GLOBAL STADIUM SECTOR

TheStadiumBusiness Summit is the largest dedicated meeting in the world of the owners, the operators and the developers of the world’s leading stadiums, arenas and major sport venues.

TheStadiumBusiness Summit 2013 will be held in Manchester, UK from 5-7 June 2013. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.stadiumbusinesssummit.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.stadiumbusinesssummit.com/</a>

And it's in partnership with Etihad Stadium and Manchester City FC! Sounds promising.