Gas & Electricity

[tony coleman]

Just had a bit her on tv who’s had to call it a day his electric jumped from £6k to £22k and that’s before October comes in, that’s him done, so that’s another poor soul speaking work etc!

Pardon...

 

[Octavian]

I wouldnt be normally in favour of it either BUT this has gone way too far and its been obvious for so so long that the established elite have absolutely zero care for the average person. Its either that or they are so out of touch and ignorant that they dont realise what they are doing and I dont believe that for a second.
The poverty line is going to go higher and higher endangering more and more lives just so the 1-2% of the most wealthy can carry on getting wealthier and wealthier....
I work in a reasonably well paid job as does my partner - we have one little one...I earn around 25k a year...my partner earns about 35k a year.......and we are going to start to struggle soon if this carries on... That is not right and thats no OK. ( I also realise that Im/we are still way better off than some who are already struggling and will now do so even more).....hundreds or thousands of kids and families are going to be plunged into poverty....choosing between eating and heating their homes...thats not ok

This has literally nothing to do with the war in the Ukraine and what Russia are doing (and while thats terrible it is irrelavant to the rising costs)....this is about profiteering and the government backing the established elite....

Their needs to be rioting, their needs to be trouble and strikes (see the posties have started today and I fully back them as I do the rail workers and any other public sector workers - the NHS should have done it the moment the pandemic was over) - this regime have shown they have zero regard for any political process and any counter argument. Government isnt democratic anymore...its about one party fighting another for their agenda.....not the peoples wishes but an agenda without any regard for getting together and listening to what is best and doing what is best for the people of this country....they are civil servants...nothing more, yet they are not serving us...they are serving themselves.

Im 47 years old, educated and Im past the point of listening to them (and sections of the media who push the government narrative- look at the BBC website where they are blaming the price rises on the Ukraine war - we get 4% of our resources from the Ukraine and other European countries get more yet their governments have done things to stop the price rises where as ours wont)...

There will be a break down in law and order as people can only be pushed so far....and it cant come soon enough

Energy prices have a lot to do with the Ukraine War… a lot.

There’s a ripple effect and it’s been felt internationally.

The rising costs due to inflation are because the government printed money like fucking Zimbabwe to pay for Covid and the furlough scheme, you always need to pay down the line.

Rioting and trashing things isn’t going to help and will only frighten families like your own.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

If nursery fees are £750 per month and you earn 25 grand a year thats about £1730 net a month plus take into account costs of going to work say around £200 per month you would nearly be better off staying home and looking after the little one

He wouldn't though. That means he would have to give up his job which means he won't be eligible for job seekers allowance as he gave one up. Not sure if Universal Credit is in where he lives but same rules apply, benefits are for those who can't work or can't get work yet. Jacking a job in doesn't fly there

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Energy prices have a lot to do with the Ukraine War… a lot.

There’s a ripple effect and it’s been felt internationally.

The rising costs due to inflation are because the government printed money like fucking Zimbabwe to pay for Covid and the furlough scheme, you always need to pay down the line.

Rioting and trashing things isn’t going to help and will only frighten families like your own.

Yep. We have had the cold war in decades past, this is the new one but there is a totally different level of twat running one half of it. He has a very large percentage of the gas that fuels all his opponents, NATO countries and the EU. He has worked out that turning the taps off takes the sting out of both blocs, and he has nukes to threaten if that doesn't work and nobody can be sure he wouldn't use one or more of them. Using what we get from him, and so obviously paying loads more for less of it, is the consequence.
All that being a fact, we need to do more to solve the problems and help eachother and that means energy companies having to give back. They are raking it in presently. They have shareholders, that is the way they operate and have been set up and I won't use the T(hatcher) word but that is what was set up and that is what we have. Plenty of our parents or grandparents on here will have been more than happy to buy shares in the privatisation of the essential services and utilities back in the day, and plenty will be happy to take the inheritance of those family members when the time comes.
What we need now, in these awful times, is for a govt to step in and say enough and look after the populace. I'm sure a temporary renationalisation is unachievable, but a fucking good set of regulations and resharing of profit is fair

 

[Octavian]

Yep. We have had the cold war in decades past, this is the new one but there is a totally different level of twat running one half of it. He has a very large percentage of the gas that fuels all his opponents, NATO countries and the EU. He has worked out that turning the taps off takes the sting out of both blocs, and he has nukes to threaten if that doesn't work and nobody can be sure he wouldn't use one or more of them. Using what we get from him, and so obviously paying loads more for less of it, is the consequence.
All that being a fact, we need to do more to solve the problems and help eachother and that means energy companies having to give back. They are raking it in presently. They have shareholders, that is the way they operate and have been set up and I won't use the T(hatcher) word but that is what was set up and that is what we have. Plenty of our parents or grandparents on here will have been more than happy to buy shares in the privatisation of the essential services and utilities back in the day, and plenty will be happy to take the inheritance of those family members when the time comes.
What we need now, in these awful times, is for a govt to step in and say enough and look after the populace. I'm sure a temporary renationalisation is unachievable, but a fucking good set of regulations and resharing of profit is fair

I’m for that if it can be done, something needs to be done, I just don’t agree trashing our towns and cities is going to help, as the other fella suggested.

Someone is going to have to take the hit and international cooperation in the form of legislation, to make the big energy corporations take the bulk of it, gets my vote.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

I’m for that if it can be done, something needs to be done, I just don’t agree trashing our towns and cities is going to help, as the other fella suggested.

Someone is going to have to take the hit and international cooperation in the form of legislation, to make the big energy corporations take the bulk of it, gets my vote.

This what the UN is for, Shirley

 

[Octavian]

This what the UN is for, Shirley

UselessNobs

 

[blue for life]

Energy prices have a lot to do with the Ukraine War… a lot.

There’s a ripple effect and it’s been felt internationally.

The rising costs due to inflation are because the government printed money like fucking Zimbabwe to pay for Covid and the furlough scheme, you always need to pay down the line.

Rioting and trashing things isn’t going to help and will only frighten families like your own.

Unfortunately rioting and trashing will be a consequence of people having nothing to lose

 

[blue for life]

Unfortunately rioting and trashing will be a consequence of people having nothing to lose

But it’s better than doffing the cap

 

[55yr old teenager]

Unfortunately rioting and trashing will be a consequence of people having nothing to lose

Exactly. If people feel that the government are not listening to our concerns, or are not willing to help out in a meaningful way, taking to the streets to protest is the only way for millions of people to get their voices heard, that's what should be done. If this then escalates into riots it's obviously unfortunate. I do think as unpalatable that would be, it might be the only way to get the government to take note and get their fingers out of their arses and do something.